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Liberals when talking about human rights: :) Liberals when talking about the enforcement of human rights: :(
Tankies ≠ leftists ≠ liberals
Plenty of leftists want human rights and even know we'll need a revolution to get them, but the USSR and CCP were not ever communist, they were authoritarian oligarchies disguised as communism. The same way the US is not a democracy or a republic, it's an authoritarian oligarchy disguised as one.
The USSR wasn't perfect (and Stalin ruined most things that were good obviously) but they weren't any worse than the USA or the west.
Your reading comprehension really is something to behold. You basically just disagreed with me by saying exactly the same thing I just fucking said.
Yeah okay, fair enough, I kinda only read the start and end of your post. I guess I agree with you then. I still think the USSR gets too much hate in general though. I vociferously defend the USSR around liberals and attack it around M-Ls lol.
My opinion on the USSR is that Lenin was cool, Trotsky was cool, and everyone else deserved to be hanged in Minecraft
Tankies ≠ Liberals, though
Yes that was my point, easy to criticise tankies but at least they want to do things.
Oh I see ! Fait enough :D
The point was that people often express a desire for human rights, but often completely discard any and all actual successful socialist experiments that aim to further those rights, and their many achievements. And those people then stay with the status quo.