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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

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Reply guy EY attempts incredibly convoluted offer to meet him half-way by implying AI body pillows are a vanguard threat that will lead to human extinction... (nitter.net)

submitted 11 months ago by Architeuthis@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

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... while at the same time not really worth worrying about so we should be concentrating on unnamed alleged mid term risks.

EY tweets are probably the lowest effort sneerclub content possible but the birdsite threw this to my face this morning so it's only fair you suffer too. Transcript follows:

Andrew Ng wrote:

In AI, the ratio of attention on hypothetical, future, forms of harm to actual, current, realized forms of harm seems out of whack.

Many of the hypothetical forms of harm, like AI "taking over", are based on highly questionable hypotheses about what technology that does not currently exist might do.

Every field should examine both future and current problems. But is there any other engineering discipline where this much attention is on hypothetical problems rather than actual problems?

EY replied:

I think when the near-term harm is massive numbers of young men and women dropping out of the human dating market, and the mid-term harm is the utter extermination of humanity, it makes sense to focus on policies motivated by preventing mid-term harm, if there's even a trade-off.

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think when the near-term harm is massive numbers of young men and women dropping out of the human dating market

Ow god he is going blackpiller. Kudos to this seasons writers, unexpected twist.

Small story I read about the 'guy who was convinced by his AI replika gf to try and kill the queen' the AI girlfriend basically went with stuff like 'that sounds like a great idea' and that was all the convincing it did. The sexting logs (apparently, I have not checked myself) which came out when Replika turned off the AI's sex responses were also very passive on the AI's side (For people interested the Sarah Z yt vid on it might be interesting but I have not watched it yet). They are not looking for dates, they are looking for slaves and supportive moms, the human dating market will do fine. The only risk is people pigbutchering, but we don't need AI for that (and the human slaves they use for that (yeah really, not fun to look that up) are also doing good work, prob better than any AI can do, with the human people being actually human).

Anyway, I still have the feeling that when a social movement is lagging they start looking into dating sites so not sure how great this is for the future of AI (I'm joking, clearly this is a different situation involving dating).