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Why The Last Jedi is a Great Sequel to The Force Awakens (loudandclearreviews.com)

submitted 11 months ago by wjrii@kbin.social to c/Starwars@kbin.social

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Star Wars: The Last Jedi is ridiculed for dismissing the groundwork of The Force Awakens, but it’s a great sequel that continues the story properly. Here’s why.

I'm on board with this article. If there was, as is famously repeated online, "no plan," then JJ should have conceded that Rian is a better writer and carried his threads forward.

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[–] I_Am_Jacks_____@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree with the article. My first viewing of TLJ left me shook. I did not like it because it wasn't what I'd hoped it would be. But I re-watched all 9 movies a few months ago and I have to say that the whole Sequel Trilogy was way better than I had remembered... especially TLJ.

[–] Ganondorf@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There are a lot of things I really love about TLJ and overall it gets a lot of unnecessary hate, and usually a lot of the arguments are not well constructed beyond "I didn't like it". The main three gripes I hear about it are: a) Finn's side story was unnecessary (which, sure - maybe. I could see both sides of that argument so won't fight about it) b) Luke was nerfed from his Legends persona (arguably, was a fantastic decision) c) the immediate death of some characters.

Legends Luke's power is stupid and god-like. At one point he walks on the surface of a black hole, which is absolute trash fan fiction. Legends makes a very poorly/quickly trained Jedi into a Master and the absolute strongest being in the universe, who is so powerful that he basically isn't human anymore. It makes for a very boring character, similar to Superman. TLJ makes Luke into a believable character, considering his background and what's happened to him since we last saw him. 30 years is a long time and he's seen some shit - all without a lot of the proper Jedi training that other Jedi received since they were children.

As for the deaths of Phasma and Snoke: who cares? The main reason for them to be around was to be monoliths for Finn and Kylo Ren to overcome. They weren't interesting characters otherwise and we find out why Snoke wasn't developed further in the next movie. Also, Kylo Ren should be the focus of a movie in the Skywalker saga, not the newbie Snoke. Removing him was a good choice. Finn's monolith being removed gives him an opportunity to move to a new phase in the next movie, which was then not utilized by JJ. Furthermore, Phasma was supposed to be the next Boba Fett: just a marketable character who was pretty boring in the original trilogy but looked cool so his action figure sold well. TLJ does a very sensible thing overall: It takes unnecessary characters and writes them out of an already overcrowded character list.

TLJ also examined what went wrong with The Force Awakens and fixes it: namely that TFA is so safe that it leans into a boring rehash of ANH. TLJ at least had the guts to do something different and take the franchise in another direction, one SW sorely still needs thanks to JJ and Disney's refusal to do something different. So much of SW in the last 2 decades has been incredibly safe - except TLJ. It really goes to show how little originality and small vision JJ Abrams and Disney have as creatives that they couldn't figure out how to handle TRoS, which is arguably the absolute worst SW film - and outperforming AotC in that regard is truly impressive.

Last point, the last 20 or so minutes of TLJ really understands the origin of SW: Japanese samurai/ronin sword duels. It's also visually beautiful.

TLDR: SW fans go brr, hate everything anyway.