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[–] Armen12@lemm.ee 56 points 11 months ago (62 children)

I love how a country is allowed to just get away with killing children and UN workers and doctors and journalists but we condemn countries that do the same thing like Russia. It makes no sense that Israel should get a free pass, all it does is expose a huge double standard

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago (21 children)

If Ukraine had initially launched an attack on Russia and killed 1,200 mainlycivilians, taken 200+ hostages and thrown in a bit of organised gang rape, I doubt Ukraine would be receiving its current level of support, and there may even have been some support for retaliatory action by Russia.

That’s not to say that Israel’s current appalling treatment of Palestinian civilians is justified

[–] cwagner 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It’s crazy. On reddit, it’s 90%

Let’s ignore how many people israel has killed, they need to kill more, and let’s also go ahead an label everyone who says "too much" a hamas supporter

Then you go here and it’s again 90%

Let’s not even call hamas terrorist, more like freedom-fighters with some friendly rape and friendly fire thrown in.

[–] sqgl 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

You are describing r/Worldnews not other Reddit subs.

And Lemmy has been 50-50, with very little actual personal attacking.

[–] Titan 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Worldnews mods are clearly fascist. They banned me for being skeptical of IDF sources

[–] sqgl 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If it makes you feel any better, I got banned for my first and only comment there (not even a post) which was a link and an explanation of the high credentials of the author. Like this...

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

Hersh first gained recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai Massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, for which he received the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting.

[–] Titan 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah they are clearly forcing a narrative there.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone from IDF social media team is involved in some way, either as a mod or paying the mods handsomely

[–] cwagner 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I do not visit worldnews. This description fits to both /r/europe and /r/de.

And regarding lemmy, maybe on other instances, but I’m only on beehaw.

[–] sqgl 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Haven't visited those subs.

I might be describing beehaw rather than other Lemmy instances. That was why I joined beehaw, because it promised civility.

[–] cwagner 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As I said, I only know of beehaw as well. No personal attacks, but also nowhere near 50-50 sentinment.

[–] sqgl 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] idiocracy@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

what do u mean 50-50? give me one thread here that isn't anti Israel and with massive upvote/downvote ratio

[–] sqgl 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wut? I've not seen a single pro Israel thread here.

[–] sqgl 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Not moving the goalposts but I meant Lemmy in general, not beehaw, cause no downvotes

But I admit you supplied a link to my request. I stand.partially informed

[–] sqgl 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah, so only beehaw prohibits downvotes, not other Lemmy instances. TIL.

I guess even what I showed you may have gone negative if downvotes were allowed. The person I was arguing with wasn't being nasty about it, just incredibly obstinate.

I worry about a return to Nazi style anti-semitism (though I hate Likud) which the polarized discussions are leading us towards. It is arrogant to think it could never happen again.

[–] Zoop 2 points 11 months ago

Some Lemmy instances have downvotes, some don't. It varies by instance. I think most instances have/allow downvotes. Beehaw & Blahaj are two bigger ones that don't that I can think of off of the top of my head.

Also agreed with your last bit. I'm nervous about it, too. I wish people would just be decent and... not suck, lol.

[–] livus@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

I don't agree with this characterization at all.

Here in the fediverse there are many people with opinions similar to mine, i.e we are on the side of civillians, not any of the belligerents in this hellscape of war crimes.

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