this post was submitted on 10 Dec 2023
252 points (100.0% liked)

Memes

1357 readers
13 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t think there driving force of the conflict comes down to capital, but a conflict of non-economic ideologies.

Well, you're incorrect. Israel is a settler colonial venture, that is where the conflict comes from, not a difference in religious beliefs.

But, it’s a very large conflict with a very long history, so not only am I not an expert, but the nature of the conflict may have many aspects that change over time.

The region was really peaceful before the colonial project actually, I mean of course the ottoman empire wasn't great but there wasn't a lot of notable ethnic conflict in the region.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

By "long history" I meant decades not centuries. Still long enough to be multigenerational.

Also there are more ideologies than just religion and economics, and conflict can be over a combination of them. Just because one party is colonial, doesn't mean that all conflicts are necessarily going to be primarily over capital. That will of course be a part, but it's also not like one day all the Jews in Europe were like "let's go kick out all the people from this area because lolz".

I'm trying to avoid talking about my personal beliefs here, but I'm definitely not of the opinion that both sides are equally bad.

I absolutely agree that colonialism is a huge (biggest?) factor though, and that goes all the way back to when European powers chose the land and kicked out the native people.