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the healthy crab blames the sick crab not the fisherman (slrpnk.net)

submitted 11 months ago by stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net to c/memes@slrpnk.net

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[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I see a bipartisan consensus on this in the non-mainstream(ish) left and right. If we could only agree on the causes, we could actually get shit done.

[–] NoStressyJessie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No, We have to agree on the solutions as well. Take abortions as an example, everyone wants less abortions, the left wants more contraception, education, social safety net programs, etc that would net result in less abortions. The right just wants to penalize abortions.

[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The right wants less abortions only in so much as they want to eliminate female agency.

If they really believed that abortion was murder then bombings of abortion clinics would be more common than picketing them.

[–] millie@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, obviously birth control is cheaper and easier for everyone, but that aside there should be as many as there needs to be. No one should have to carry a pregnancy to term against their will, and that shouldn't be anyone else's business or a political bargaining chip.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely think the stronger argument to sway those on the fence is to emphasize that better access to birth control decreases abortions and banning abortion doesn't actually reduce the abortion rate, it just makes it more dangerous. But like, that's not why I take that position. Personal bodily autonomy is plenty of reason in my book, and I don't feel a particular need to try to bring the number of abortions down.

But yeah, I'm sure it's not a particularly fun medical procedure either.

[–] rgb3x3 3 points 11 months ago

Abortion is traumatic for everyone involved. We shouldn't want abortions to be necessary in the first place. Decreasing the number of abortions is a good stance to have.

The way to do that is to help prevent the need for an abortion in the first place through the mentioned liberal policies.

Whereas conservatives essentially want to punish people for putting out fires without addressing the reason why fires keep happening.