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[–] afrom@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

They allowed the US SUV and pickup fashion to swap over to Europe (20 years ago there was little to none of those on European roads) so that when people are buying them, they get punished for doing so!? My point is, why the majority is acting like it is only the ordinary people's fault?

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

why the majority is acting like it is the ordinary people's fault?

Because it is. The market produces what consumers buy.

If nobody buys SUVs, nobody produces SUVs. It's 100% on the consumer in the EU, there's enough other cars available.

[–] afrom@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Partly correct ...market produces what consumers buy but here was no such things like SUVs and pickups so they needed to introduce them so ppl can buy. It's basically marketing 1st. Marketing has a huge influence

[–] ElmarsonTheThird@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

They didn't need to introduce them, they saw the opportunity to do so. Besides, there's always been the possibility to buy a utilitarian pick up truck but they're work vehicles.

It's just supply and demand. Someone offers SUVs and Trucks, people buy them all, other companies offer more of the same. So of course, everyone who wanted to buy one made the concious decision to do so. The consumers are, in fact, responsible for their actions.

Guess why there are so few station wagons in the US now, as opposed to the 1980s. People wanted bigger cars and the market phased out the more sensible, but less desired option.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is no fault. No punishment. Just choices. And other people’s choices.

[–] afrom@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Of course that was meant figuratively, I thought that was clear

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Obviously.

Your choice of metaphors however clearly implies you see yourself as a victim, or at the very least a wronged party. I wanted to forcefully push back against that framing.

[–] afrom@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No I don't see myself as a victim. Never owned an SUV and most likely never will because I don't like them and also I don't live in France so it's pointless however.

I wanted to forcefully push back against that framing

By doing so you do demonstrate that you allowed yourself to be instrumentalized. Maybe one day you guys will understand but of course that's up to you.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] afrom@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nothing my friend ...give everything you earn (if you do) to the govt. Have a good life without cars and flights. All is up to you, life is short.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

give everything you earn (if you do) to the govt

First of all, we’re talking about parking fees in Paris. They are very very high, but not quite that expensive.

Second, you need to have some cash left over for the Illuminati, the NWO and the world economic forum man.

[–] afrom@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who ist talking about those things!? TF is wrong with u? Why I'm even wasting my time

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago

I’ll give you one thing, you are wasting your time.

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