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I know WD has been clamping down on shucking capabilities lately, by requiring the drives to use their proprietary USB interface - more so on the MyBooks, but I don't know bout the Elements series.

Is this worth getting to shuck? And what model drive is usually inside?

Thanks!

--- DS

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[–] dr100@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

What you know is completely false. There is no known 3.5" external that isn't a completely "normal" 3.5" internal drive inside. Yes, I'm aware of multiple times when some (usually Mac) users came with the idea that they need WD software to format their drives but that is only because they just can't find the buttons to partition/format a drive.

[–] dev_all_the_ops@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Completely False? No known 3.5 external that isn't normal inside?

You sure about that?

What about these drives that have a USB interface instead of SATA.

[–] dr100@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

And what's the SPECIFIC example you want to mention, can you find even a single one or are you just trolling for clicks?

[–] Far_Marsupial6303@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if they still do this, but MyBook* used to use encryption on their interface, preventing use of the drives outside the enclosure. Not an issue if you're planning to format the drive outside the enclosure.

*AFAIK, this is still true for 2.5" portables, which also have the USB interface integrated into the mainboard.

[–] dr100@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don't know if they still do this, but MyBook* used to use encryption on their interface, preventing use of the drives outside the enclosure. Not an issue if you're planning to format the drive outside the enclosure.

That didn't prevent you from USING the disk, but it would just prevent you from using the encrypted data via the enclosure - without the enclosure. The disks themselves were perfectly normal, even regularly branded (green or even red) at the time.

[–] FiIthy_Anarchist@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Op is referring to boards with usb headers, rather than sata, I think.

[–] dr100@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is part of my point, there were never such 3.5" drives.

[–] FiIthy_Anarchist@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I may be misremembering and confusing it for a 2.5, but I really really feel like I've gotten one before.

[–] Far_Marsupial6303@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, Thank you!

I've edited my post to reflect that as I wasn't clear on that point!

[–] Far_Marsupial6303@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

AFAIK, with the exception of WD and Toshiba 2.5" portables which have the USB interface integrated in the mainboard, there is no 2.5" or 3.5" drive in any external that is proprietary or locked in any way to prevent it from being used as an internal once formatted.

This is especially true for Mac users. You don't need to buy pre-formatted Mac externals. You can always format any external to whatever file system you choose.

[–] Nico_is_not_a_god@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's some that need a SATA pin bypassed to be used internally. It's not too much of a pain but it is something.

[–] dr100@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

No, it is less than nothing, it is a FEATURE of internal drives, that can be used ONLY internally, if the drive has the feature it can do MORE internally. Now of course if one has a power supply that isn't wired accordingly to SAT3.3 (2016) standard this "more" thing is telling the drive (again, in a standard way, it'll happen the same if one buys just any internal with this feature) to turn off.