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at the moment my caddy setup is stable; I am recounting my experience from memory.
It may be useful to consider what I said in a broader perspective -- i.e., what you have is an excellent reference but it does not help discovery of task-oriented solutions.
Sorry I am unable to express the problem better than that. Will keep an eye out in future if I can get more concrete and open an issue or something.
😬 Well, that's not helpful. Without specific feedback, there's nothing we can do to improve the docs. It's exhausting to read vague complaints about the docs, because it's 90% of the feedback we get.
But yes, please do reach out (open a GitHub issue, comment on the forums etc) if you do notice something that doesn't meet your expectations in the docs.
What I think they meant is more “how to achieve X or Y” focused documentation, rather than just explaining how features A or B work. The former approach explains what you should use and how to do it, the latter only documents what each variable does.
To use an analogy: I could probably build a bicycle from the individual parts based on a tutorial with that goal in mind, but not based on the individual technical descriptions of each part.
/u/xkcd__386 is that what you meant?
Spot on.
Of course from their point of view that's "not helpful". Maybe I'll spend some time looking at it to come up with something, if I have time.
I understand what they meant, but it's broad/vague, and not specific/actionable.
We do have a tutorials section in the docs, and we have the https://caddyserver.com/docs/caddyfile/patterns page which are that.
Our question is how are those lacking? Just saying "more please" doesn't help because we don't know what the need is. We can't imagine every single possible usecase, because it's actually infinite. Caddy is a "general purpose webserver" which means "it can do just about anything".
Help us by telling us what specifically what usecase is important to you. We don't have telemetry, we need users to tell us.
Right, gotcha. I can’t help you there since I don’t use Caddy.
The tutorials section is very basic; I am not talking at that level. The patterns page is closer to the level of complexity that one needs help with, and it does cover several items, but you have 30-40 directives, many with several options, global options, and so on, so there're bound to be gaps.
In the other comment you said this is "90% of the feedback we get", and I can certainly understand the frustration -- people want documentation to magically solve their specific problem quickly, without having to read anything extraneous to it, which is clearly impossible.
As I said before, I'll keep it in mind next time I need to do something if I can't find it easily in the docs I'll at least highlight the effort it took, what I searched/read/found, etc., so you have something concrete.