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Please check my post, I think everything I said is very valid, but I want this community to see it too, and help steer the discussion, I think reddit is doing this intentionally.

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[–] communist 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A public form doesn’t mean it can’t respect privacy. Why even allow delete at all in Lemmy if this is your argument? Make comments immutable. It would be easier to code.

It respects your privacy just as much as the alternative, which again, is reddit.

If you edit your post, the previous version isn't saved.

You are posting on a public website, you can't expect that level of privacy, nothing ever gets deleted on the internet.

[–] mainfrog 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It respects your privacy just as much as the alternative, which again, is reddit.

The alternative isn't Reddit. It's Tildes, Lobste.rs, Lemmy forks, etc...

News aggregation isn't a binary choice with Reddit on one side. I think if you are saying your software/platform "respects privacy as much as Reddit" that should really be a red or yellow flag. The way Reddit treats user data shouldn't really be an aspiration.

If you edit your post, the previous version isn’t saved.

I haven't dived into how Lemmy handles edits specifically yet, but my understanding is that a version of the edit is saved into a log. This also brings up the point - if I can edit my post with a period to "delete" it, why doesn't the delete work that way too?

You are posting on a public website, you can’t expect that level of privacy, nothing ever gets deleted on the internet.

I didn't say I expected it. I said I wanted it. Just because Twitter is terrible for privacy doesn't mean Lemmy can't aspire to better than Reddit or Twitter for privacy.

[–] communist 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I haven’t dived into how Lemmy handles edits specifically yet, but my understanding is that a version of the edit is saved into a log. This also brings up the point - if I can edit my post with a period to “delete” it, why doesn’t the delete work that way too?

You can do that, and delete doesn't work that way in case you want to restore your post.

You can also, again, delete your account, and that will remove all of your posts.

This respects privacy, and is convenient.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2977 I recommend actually checking the issue tracker for that.

[–] mainfrog 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just disagree. Let me restore my post for a limited amount of time before hard deleting it. Make the policy around that data transparent.

I have checked the issue tracker. Privacy concerns are coming up pretty regularly there. Other people seem to value it too. Lemmy has an opportunity to set a new standard around user privacy in this space and I hope we can take that opportunity.

[–] communist 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Post it to the issue tracker, it seems like it just hasn't been updated with that functionality yet, not that they won't do it.

[–] mainfrog 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My intention is to be a contributor. Rust is my second favorite language. Thank you for the discussion.

[–] communist 1 points 1 year ago

I can't imagine they'd reject a pull request for such a thing.