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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

“I’ve made a machine that does the labor of 10 men!”

“You’re going to still pay the other nine, right?”

You’re still going to pay the other nine, right?

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 year ago

So the ten men can all do a tenth of the labor now right?

Oh you're going to fire nine, cut the tenth's pay, and make him work even longer hours, and keep the vast majority of the profits for yourself, got it. That's fine too I guess...

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

For more info on how automation works under capitalism, read chapters 15-16 of capital

Chapter 15: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch15.htm

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“I’ve ~~made~~ bought a machine that does the labor of 10 men!”

“You’re going to still pay the other nine, right?”

"Why? I bought it to get more of the money to myself. Why would I pay for something and get nothing in return? Why would I just lose money for no reason?"

Seriously though, the dynamics are pretty clear, there's no investment without the expectation for extra profit (even for a state. Invest in a new railroad with the expectation of higher economic activity and therefore more taxes). Otherwise it's just charity

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope for your sake that when the factory workers can't afford to feed their kids and they drag you from your home and try to beat you to death in front of your family they find that argument compelling.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

I'm one of the ten men, I'm just a worker like anyone else here, I can just use the little grey matter I have to try and understand the world and look at it with more objective eyes, instead of killing anyone who disagrees with me.

Fucking fascist pos. If you want to kill families go to Russia or Israel and look at how fun it is.