I don't see this as advocating for violence, more as pointing out how a specific group of people only care about things that personally affect them so they currently don't care about the issue.

Hell the NRA cared about gun control when the Black Panthers started advocating for buying guns back in the day. Why? Because they saw it as a personal threat to their well-being.

[–] ProcurementCat@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hell and that's a Fox "News" poll

That's why I instantly saved it to my phone. This picture has such a high value in "discussions" with gun freaks.

I'm working for a NATO countries' military, am a frequent poster and avid follower of NonCredibleDefense, own weapons myself, know a lot about their inner workings and history, but even I am not even remotely as crazy as those people.

Then again, I do own several weapons but advocate that my government pass laws to take them away. Guess I'm kind of a paradoxical outlier in this matter.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I own several guns as well and I'm greatly in favor of better gun control laws. I'm a bit odd as well in that regard lol

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I used to be an avid gun owner till my father used one of his guns to take his life, he carried one his whole life to protect our family, and it ended up causing more harm than any mugger or home invader ever could imagine. If you ever have suicidal ideations please leave your firearms with a trusted comrade till you get help. I had ideations almost my whole adult life and thought i could resist them till the day I died, which was technically true, but not in the sense I thought. I pawned my guns, shortly after his death, and haven't had those ideations since. The vast majority of gun deaths are self inflicted and get swept under the rug by families and the news.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

I agree whole heartedly that if you have suicidal thoughts you shouldn't own firearms. It's a recipe for disaster if you do. And if you have those thoughts you should seek help. There's people in your life who will miss you dearly when you're gone, even if you don't think so.

And I'm sorry for your loss, I know how hard it is when someone you care about commits suicide. I've known 4 people who have. Though none of them used firearms to do so I'll never forget them.

Personally I'll never own pistols as I've had too many bad experiences with pistols. The why is a bit of a doozy.

Trigger warning Child Abuse, Breaking and Entering, and Attempted Murder.

On a number of occasions my dad held a pistol to my head screaming at me to tell him where his drugs that he had already done were. He did this a lot to my siblings and I before he finally got clean. I still refuse to speak with him as there's just too much pain there. My siblings tell me he's a lot different now, that he's back to the way he was when they were young, but I've only ever known him as the abusive drug addict that he was.

Him and some of my other relatives are why I own firearms really as a number of them have said that they "can't wait to get the order to hunt people like me in the streets." And one went to prison for kicking my door in to try. That was when that relative found out I was a gun owner. They didn't get shot, we just patiently waited for the police to arrive while they sat in my entry way.

[–] Truck_kun 4 points 1 year ago

That their local representative was anti-gun control before this shooting affected his own local area, only proves your point more. That he changed his opinion is a good thing, but too little too late.

Very impressed that he publicly came out to accept responsibility for the Maine shooting with his previous opposition to gun control though, and is now advocating for it.

Unfortunately, it may take several shootings in all the representatives' and senators' home towns that are in opposition to actually flip them (even then, it wouldn't change many of their minds, unless it actually personally affected them), and the country shouldn't have to suffer that. It likely will literally take a constitutional amendment to prevent the supreme court from overturning any legislation enacted (or at least stripping it down to become fluff legislation with little meaning, or effect).