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I'm not sure if this is the right place for a discussion, or if I should rather open an issue at Codeberg.

Anyways, some bold soul posted the first link on @nsfw, which I saw browsing All. It was properly tagged as 18+, but the cropped thumbnail already showed some explicit content.

My proposal would therefore be to blur at least the thumbnails in 18+ posts. I'm not sure how to handle this with federated stuff from e.g. Lemmy, as I have no idea if posts from there can even be tagged 18+.

What does everyone think?

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[โ€“] sab@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think there's also a huge difference between at least four types of explicit content:

  1. Normal content that prudish people would be upset by, like a picture of Michelangelo's David or a news article about a tribe in the Amazonas. I don't think this should even be tagged NSFW. I mean, come on.
  2. Self-posting, which can be well moderated and is generally unproblematic if tagged NSFW (and the creators are consenting adults, obviously).
  3. Generic non-original content, which is more problematic and often stolen from somewhere. This is the tricky gray zone. Some content is fine, other might be problematic both ethically (reposting someone's intimate pictures from for example a closed only fans account) and legally (copyright).
  4. Revenge porn and all the shit that shouldn't ever be on the internet to begin with. This needs to be avoided at all cost, and servers posting it need to be de-federated asap. This is probably the greatest existential threat along with right wing trolls.

I think the first should be allowed on any server. The second and third are fine as long as long as they are well moderated - whether they're up to the task I guess is up to whoever maintains the instance.

[โ€“] nude@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

This is a great breakdown.
1 is obvious. Artistic, informational, that sort of thing is hopefully not seen as an issue outside the most prudish.

2 is I think the most important. 3 can be found anywhere on the web. 4 shouldnt exist anywhere.

Allowing people to express themselves freely is what I want to see from the fediverse. If that involves naked media, so be it. I dont think we need anymore repositories for people posting commercial pictures, but I want to see places where are free to explore and share their sexualities without it necessarily being a commercial porn site.

Its definitely complicated and hard to articulate, but hopefully the fediverse is able to adapt to something like this. Not necessarily kbin or lemmy or anywhere that even currently exists, but hopefully.something comes along to fill that space.