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[–] Kulun@mander.xyz 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

The Xinjiang Police Files were evaluated and checked for authenticity by a team of more than 30 journalists from 13 media outlets around the world – including the British BBC, »El País« in Spain, »Der Spiegel« in Germany and »Le Monde« in France

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I don't know what qualifications these journalists have w.r.t. verifying the authenticity of the documents, but let's assume that they're genuine. Do they contain some actual evidence to support the allegation that China is committing genocide, using slave labour, or something similar? (These are extremely serious allegations to make, so they ought to be very confident about their conclusions.)

[–] Kulun@mander.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Do they contain some actual evidence

Did you even read the linked article, or some other sources?!

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I've read plenty of it. I've also seen plenty of counter-evidence, so you'll have to forgive me for not reading through all claims made by highly disreputable sources -- it's far easier to make an outrageous accusation than to disprove it. I'm sure you've read the article you posted, so feel free to point out which parts you find convincing.

EDIT: I have now read the article. It certainly does make some allegations (although even if it is completely accurate, the Chinese government's treatment of the potential religious extremists detained there is far more humane than what the US does on a regular basis).

An interesting thing to note is that one of the articles linked at the bottom is an excellent example of the lies outlets like the BBC frequently spread about the official enemies of the imperial core -- this article repeats the extreme claims made by Tursunay Ziyawudun, who is known to have changed her story multiple times (1, 2 (same article as above), summary (from a pro-China source), another summary in a Twitter thread).

[–] Kulun@mander.xyz 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

~~Why would you want to discuss an article you haven't even read?~~ [due to graineters edit]

I’m sure you’ve read the article you posted, so feel free to point out which parts you find convincing.

The authenticity of the sources seems plausible.
It's not about me or what I find convincing, and it 's not my intention to convince anyone, so pls don't judge others by yourself

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Finished my edit a second after you posted this.

I would argue that a story "seeming plausible" isn't a particularly good reason for these extreme accusations, but you do you.

[–] Kulun@mander.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't try to twist the words in my mouth. I never said the story is plausible, but the authenticity of the sources
can you tell the difference?

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What? No, I can't particularly see how you could consider the story implausible while the sources are authentic. (EDIT: Unless you believe that the BBC is deliberately drawing faulty conclusions.)

[–] Kulun@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I respect that you can't see it, so have a nice day anyway.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

You have a nice day, too.

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