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On the side bar it lists the following:

  • [Matrix/Element]Dead
  • Discord

"Discord" is an active link, but the Matrix link is completely inactive. Not only is it inactive (which could have be excused as a broken link), but it is also manually labeled as "Dead", as if there is no intention of making it work. How can a community that is focused on privacy willingly favor a service that is privacy non-respecting when a perfectly functional privacy-respecting alternative exists?

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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Discord is just the preferred platform for that sort of group-based text comms. It's better both in a technical sense (more feature-rich and more reliable), and a UX sense, for a majority of users. It's also free to set up a server, which gives it a huge boost to usability. Matrix has a long way to go if they want to compete.

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is total bullshit. You should start at the fact that Discord is owned by a chinese company. Then discuss everything else. To me Discord looks and acts like a spoiled child: too many things going on, too many flashy stuff, too manny obnoxious "features".

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should start at the fact that Discord is owned by a chinese company.

Discord Inc is a privately-owned American company. If you're referring to Tencent, they are investors, and not owners. And they're only one of several foreign investors. As for ownership, two dudes share majority ownership of the company.

Then discuss everything else.

Maybe you should do ten seconds of Googling before discussing anything.

[–] immibis@social.immibis.com 3 points 1 year ago

@Chozo @Kalcifer @clmbmb In capitalism, investors and owners are one and the same. Investors are owners. Owners are investors.

[–] ReversalHatchery 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not free to set up a server on discord. It's not possible at all.

I know what you actually mean, the word server means that the mods and admins have control over it and they have control over how data stored on the server gets used. The discord definition is misleading in this regard.
On discord, neither of these are true: if the admin's account is banned (or "suspended" until a phone number is given) they don't have any control anymore, and regardless of this they don't have any control over how the data is used (which includes private date like messages of users, how much and when are they online, etc).

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I'm using Discord's terminology for a discussion about Discord. What they call a "server" is not actually a server, but that's the term they went with.

I could've used the Discord dev term "guild", since that's how "servers" are referred to internally and in the code, but I don't think as many people would understand what I meant by that.

[–] ReversalHatchery 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I'm using Discord's terminology for a discussion about Discord.

A terminology that is (designed to be) very misleading.
I know I'm just a random internet stranger, but please, don't use the "server" name for discord communities.