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[–] gotofritz 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Am I the only one who doesn't get all the outrage? They are a private company with a CEO and investors and that's their data. There was never any promise to be a community effort. Why should they let Apollo etc make money out of their data.

And before people say "it's NOT their data! Users cre it" - yeah it's user generated data, which users then donate to Reddit in exchange for reach and publishing tools.

It would be different if it was on the fediverse, which has totally different premises. But Reddit is a private company and eventually they would have to turn a profit. That was always on the cards.

[–] CheshireSnake@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think anyone who understands the issue is complaining about them monetising. People know it costs a ton to maintain the infrastructure. That's not the point.

  • people don't mind TPAs are billed, but the pricing is a thinly veiled attempt at pretending that they don't want to completely eliminate TPAs. People would have been fine if the pricing is reasonable. They don't like it when you try to pull a fast one over them.
  • their own application is bad. There's no way around it. From accessibility to mod tools.
  • they have promised to focus on the above points for years now, and there's still almost no improvement. People don't trust them anymore.
  • spez's recent comments against the Apollo dev are blatant lies and it only fuelled the outrage. Unfortunately for him, the Apollo dev legally recorded the conversation.
  • they do own the data, but it's still the users who create them. If you treat the people who create content for you like trash, expect backlash. This happens on many private companies, not only reddit.

There's more, but I'm out right now so I can't focus much. Basically, if your content is from the users, you should take care of the users and people running your site.

[–] gotofritz 5 points 1 year ago

I agree that them pushing out third party apps when their own is rubbish is an idiotic move - and it will hurt them badly. They rely on people being too addicted to leave (it kind of worked when Musk did it with Twitter) but if the app is unusable it's simply not going to happen. As someone who uses as few apps as possible (why do people trust the Apollo dev to be any better at privacy than spez? anyhow...) I didn't quite grasp that for many people Reddit is an app first and foremost. No viable app = no reddit

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