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[–] storksforlegs 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] snooggums@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why watch something that is most likely worthless drivel based on the clickbait title being similar to other worthless drivel?

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why watch or read anything? Just have your prejudices and stick to them, that's what I say. Trying to learn why other people think the way they do, especially when those people are actively trying to engage you, is a waste of time. Better to shit on their work while having zero knowledge of its content.

[–] jarfil 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Don't judge a book by its cover"... except maybe when it's part of a series of books with the same kind of cover.

If you haven't read any, then by all means, go ahead and learn what that cover represents.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, that's exactly what I said. Just look at the cover then get to posting online reviews. Reading it is unnecessary so long as you are pretty sure you have an idea what it is maybe about probably I've seen similar stuff elsewhere after all. Because just a glance at the cover is enough to decide not only whether you are interested in reading it but whether you can go online and declare the content to be "worthless drivel".

There is literally no difference between a meme post on a microblog and a 90 minute video essay. It's all exactly the same and definitely worthless.

It's not just that you should glance at the cover/title and decide whether or not you're interested in it. No way. It's that you should declare the quality of the entire work based solely on the title/cover.

[–] jarfil 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can skip the snark.

If you're young, edgy, and you know it, then go watch every single 90-minute video essay with a clickbait cover you can find, it's going to be highly educative.

Have fun.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't have to watch every video. No one does. Look at the thumbnail, who's recommending it, and title and decide if it interests you.

But don't review shit you haven't even pretended to attempt to consume. That's fucking philistine shit.

[–] jarfil 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think anyone was attempting a review, this whole thread started from a comment on the clickbaity title... which, come on, you have to admit it is.

The thumbnail looks like trash... ...and while I've seen the submitter around, I don't know them well enough to just follow their opinion (not to mention everyone can be wrong once, or even twice, in their life).

But, y'know what? I've watched the first few minutes, and based on my review of that... I'll save it to watch later, just because of the "everypony" (so sad it wasn't the AI who put that in, how cool would've that been... should've started with that).

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok, go spend some hours watching Incel videos and let me know if it was time well spent.

I mean, how can you know it wasn't worth your time if you didn't watch it?

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago

Why even comment at all if you didn't watch it? Did you just come to the comments to shit talk people watching it?

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't want to watch that, same as you neither of us want to watch this video (it's 90 minutes long, goddamn).

Difference is, you're seeking the stuff out just to review it as garbage without even pretending to click on the link. You aren't even adding your own opinion about the topic; literally just saying ANY content ANYONE produces that disagrees with your view is automatically garbage. You're a total partisan on the issue and you see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Alright I'm only halfway through the video and it's by no means a slouch. I'd actually recommend giving it a chance.

EDIT: Having finished, I'd say it's a little preachy, but it makes some pretty heavy connections between AI companies and exploitative sweatshop labor, advertisement and consumption driven economies, and the profit motives behind the companies running AI models or gathering large datasets. It has the same themes and general political outlook of Folding Ideas, and it's about as well-researched too.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, I am disagreeing with the idea that you cannot make assumptions based on similarities to other things and must view everything to have an opinion on it. I did not say the video is garbage, but that it is reasonable for someone who has seen similarly click bait titled articles that were garbage to assume this one is too.

You do realize the very first post in this thread was the poster saying they assumed right? They admitted it was an assumption. You are turning an assumption into a negative review.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] snooggums@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe you should reply to what I wrote instead of some straw man you came up with.

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[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Fellow Admiral