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I know nobody likes a know-it-all. But FYI: The current suggestion is to call these allowlist and blocklist. I'm not sure how they're called on the router. The terms have been out there for a few years already.
Are people really trying to make blacklist and whitelist a race thing? Good Lord.
Are we going to start referring to cables as having female-identifying ends and male-identifying ends? Are USB-C cables non-binary?
That discussion happened a few years ago and most actively-developed projects using those terms have stopped or are stopping.
Also, btw, while hermaphroditic connectors have always been a thing, in the USB world cables tend to have male connectors on both ends regardless of if they're A-to-B, A-to-C, C-to-C, or have one of the many B variants.
hi, nonbinary person here
no, you fucking doughnut! just say plug/socket or port/plug or keep calling it M/F, there are thousands of better fights to fight than this, and if anyone says otherwise, let them yell at the clouds alone.
Wow. Just wow. I'm deliberately not replying to any single comment. I didn't know this is such an emotionally charged topic. And I don't like it.
I know the relation to 'race' and that being the cause for people arguing about it a few years ago. But isn't it a better term? If I want to block something with my firewall... I'm putting it on the blocklist (or deny-list). If I want to allow something... It's on the allowlist. Forgive me, maybe I'm a nerd and I don't care so much about the etymology. Why bring in (random) colors? Can I please use the term because I think it fits better?
And the discussion immediately shifting to connector genders... Well. Yeah I get it, it's a funny subject. And comparing something with protruding parts to a penis is funny. Also for me... But you people immediately having trouble with the terms, (rightfully) bringing in hermaphroditic connectors. And there being several disctinct/binary ones but with ambiguities so that it's more convention than protruding bits in case of electronics... It just shows naming connector sides that way is a stupid idea. It get's you most of the way but after that, it just confuses people and stops describing anything useful. I'm a bit unsure about this. Because it's one of the few accepted penis jokes you can make at work or a conference (at least innuendo). And I don't want to lose all of them. But it has never been a good 'analogy' in the sense that it is a good descriptive way to name connectors.