I think a lot for the guys that follow these morons and buy into this culture did not have positive male role models growing up, thus turn to media for some guidance.

This does not excuse their conduct or self-delusion, but does explain why it happens.

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They are victims as much as they are villains.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 year ago

Very much so, which makes it all that more sad.

I'm in no way excusing their villanry, but most are so delusional that they won't ever take a hard look at the way they are and wonder if they could be something else or if they need to change

[–] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this doesn't mean much tho, considering people aren't ever born 'villains'. they all are created by something traumatic.

so sure, empathize all you want, but it doesn't help anyone. simply enables it.

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I think it does help in that we can approach our ridicule of them from a constructive manner.

"Your role models are taking advantage of you."

"At least I don't fail to hide my insecurities behind toxic masculinity."

"You're alone because you choose to be alone."

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago

They also never grew out of high school mentality.