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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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Did we kill Linux's killer feature? (lemdro.id)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by mfat@lemdro.id to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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A few years ago we were able to upgrade everything (OS and Apps) using a single command. I remember this was something we boasted about when talking to Windows and Mac fans. It was such an amazing feature. Something that users of proprietary systems hadn't even heard about. We had this on desktops before things like Apple's App Store and Play Store were a thing.

We can no longer do that thanks to Flatpaks and Snaps as well as AppImages.

Recently i upgraded my Fedora system. I few days later i found out i was runnig some older apps since they were Flatpaks (i had completely forgotten how I installed bitwarden for instance.)

Do you miss the old system too?

Is it possible to bring back that experience? A unified, reliable CLI solution to make sure EVERYTHING is up to date?

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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 85 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There has always been the option of installing software from source. The package manager won't update anything installed from source.

You don't have to use Flatpak, Snap or AppImage if you don't want to. If you use the package manager to install everything, it will update everything.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except doesn't ubumtu now force a snap on you even if you try installing a package app?

[–] aperson 4 points 1 year ago

Yes. Some packages are just meta packages for their snap versions.

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[–] mfat@lemdro.id 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If I use ubuntu I'm somehow forced to use them.

Even on Fedora the average user is presented with many flatpak results when they use the GUI software manager. Not everyone is technically adept enough to check the origin of the app. So it's kind of being forced on users.

[–] ulu_mulu@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If I use ubuntu I’m somehow forced to use them.

Yes, that's why I stopped using it years ago (among other reasons).

Users are not out of options, they don't need to check the origin of the apps themselves, it's enough to ask other users what distros don't do the things they don't like and use those.

[–] barrett9h@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

so ditch this nonsense and use a better distro?

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