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A moron who was hired to be my boss, even though they didn't tell me that was the case -- who, with a straight face, dead serious, and with an undeserved authority befitting a piece of shit, told me that Object-oriented programming was a fad. This was in 2008, 30-40 years after OOP was first introduced to the world.
But it is a fad. Rust for example is not a truly OOP language. There are more ways to do software than OOP and slowly the OOP fad is going away. It has and will have it's uses but using OOP for everything was a fad that most people are getting over now.
Well I guess there is more than one. By that logic, literally everything in the universe is a fad. Good luck selling that bullshit :)
No, it was a fad in the sense that people got too exited about it and started using it where it didn't fit. Later they realized that and now start moving away from it. At least that how I would understand someone saying that "OOP is a fad". It's not some batshit crazy statement proving that someone is an idiot you're trying to make it out to be.
Yes, it is a batshit crazy statement. "Fad - noun - an intense and widely shared enthusiasm for something, especially one that is short-lived and without basis in the object's qualities; a craze". OOP has existed for 40 years, has been widely tested, is a proven form of programming, and is still in active use today. You're clearly missing the point, are severely uninformed, or have some agenda here, and I don't really care to argue it with you. Good day.
You're focusing too much on the 'short lived' part and not enough on the 'intense' and 'without basis in qualities' parts.
Short-lived is a key attribute of what "fad" means. If something stupid catches on for decades, it's not a fad.
No, the definition says 'especially one that is short-lived'. It means that things that are not short-lived can still be fads. It's clearly an optional attribute. The key attributes are 'intense', 'widely shared'.
Well, it depends what dictionary you consult. Can you give an example of a long-lived thing that would be widely considered a fad?
There are fads that have persisted over a longer term by coming in and out of fashion, like say bell-bottom pants. But I can't think of something that would be widely considered a fad that has stayed in fashion for decades.
Chat GPT suggests that Yoga and Rock 'n' Roll and long lasting fads. I would say Crypto is a pretty long lasting fad. But we're really splitting hair here. I agree that most people would say that something lasting decades is not a fad but everything is relative. Something, like yoga, can exists for hundredths of years but it's sudden popularity in the west can be considered a fad. My point really was that calling someone a moron because he said that 'OOP was a fad' is silly. Maybe he simply meant that it's overrated? Maybe he meant that people got way more excited about it than they should? Maybe he meant that it's popularity was dying out? You can make valid points about all of it. Saying that he's an idiot only because OOP existed for relatively long time actually shows how simple minded the other guy is.
Cool.