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Elon Musk's financial interests put him in a position of having his own personal foreign policy, but new reporting shows that whether it's manufacturing in China or the Starlink network being used in Ukraine, Musk’s decisions can run counter to stated US policy.

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[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You: Want to abolish billionaires because they do not support the war enough.

Me: Want to abolish billionaires because they exploit and oppress the working class.

We are not the same.

[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I want to abolish them because of both - checkmate

[–] CollisionResistance@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

I chose it so you could jerk yourself off about it and feel good at least once in your life :)

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please enlighten me what a Patsoc is - I am really curious.

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Patriotic socialist", someone who claims to be a champion of the working class, but is actually more of nationalist. They only care about the working class of a certain nationality or racial group, and are generally bigoted in their view towards marginalized groups. Real socialists are internationalist. You wanting to get rid of Musk, because he's not sufficiently gung-ho about a war fought between capitalists on the back of workers, implies you consider the national interest more important than the lives of workers. This is anti-worker class collaborator shit, which is what patsocs are really.

[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

What the fuck are you even talking about? Russia is throwing thousands of „working class“ lives away, since it wants to expand its territory in aggressive moves since decades. They are forcing Ukraine to defend itself and yes, those are also working class people.

So you, as a good socialist, are probably on the barricades because of this unprovoked attack on the Ukrainian working class. How are you fighting to defend them from getting killed? Please don’t answer something in the likes of „Ukraine should give up“ because then everyone would only see that you are actually advocating the Murder of the Ukrainian people.

[–] Varixable@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Lol what the fuck is this? "You're an enemy of the working class because you don't support Elon Musk!"

This is some brain worm shit my dude.

[–] Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Well you've jumped to conclusions there, I'm not talking about the war but Billionaires in general and their respective countries in general.

Billionaires have too much power, live outside the existing system of government and laws, gained their money and power through exploitation and in general are undemocratic.

So I agree with your second statement, but not the first