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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
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This actually brings up a good point, which we are sleeping on a bit. As a person who is a bit more 'we should sacrifice a little bit so the future can still have good things' side. The whole 'but why should we, in a scarcity environment, sacrifice this much for a post-scarcity one' thing had not really occurred to me.
Ow god I did a Rationalism, I evaluated how my own bias was holding me back. Am I out of touch? No, it's the Rationalists who are wrong.
Let’s push it further!
10^80 minds is not the only possible outcome of bullshit sci-fi. Why not consider the obvious and inevitable (my crap-cassandra-muse is pre-comitted) future of humanity melding into the Single Mind Collective ?
Why should we 8 billion souls make sacrifices to improve the life of a single one?
(Bad UI made me accidentally delete my other comment instead of editing it)
I have also encountered the comment deletion problem. Which would not be a problem if we were a hivemind. So that is quite a few negative utilitrons removed if we go all hivemind. Just saying.
Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendent, and to embrace them is to achieve enlightenment. — Chairman Sheng-ji Yang, "Essays on Mind and Matter"
(I did get a message because you deleted your message btw, it even linked back to this post)
Unrelated edit: while copy pasting the quote I found out that at tvtropes they have some angry atheists. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Quotes/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri look at the 'lords believers' quote links (not the only example). They think 'The righteous need not cower before the drumbeat of human progress.' is her saying that she is anti progress. So many of the links are good examples of gamers not getting it.
Let’s push it further!
10^80 minds is not the only possible outcome of bullshit sci-fi. Why not consider the obvious and inevitable (my crap-cassandra-muse is pre-comitted) future of humanity melding into the Single Mind Collective ?
Why should we 8 billion souls make sacrifices to improve the life of a single one?