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Passion and destruction - a collective exploration (self.chat)

submitted 1 year ago by Lionir to c/chat

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I've recently been thinking a lot about self-destruction.

I've been thinking about how passion and destruction are interlinked. I've also thought that for creation to exist, destruction must proceed it.

I've had quite the difficulty to try and make sense of these feelings. I thought I'd try to explain and explore this idea with other people.

So here I am - Let's start from the premise above.

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[–] Cube6392 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is "creation?" Is creation the act of bringing forth something that did not before exist, or does creation include creativity? Because if the former, you may be right, which is part of why we should devalue in our society the mysticism of creation and making and instead put some more focus on nurturing, care, and long-term maintenance. If the latter, I disagree. Creativity can be expressed through these acts of maintenance, nurturing, and care, all of which set at odds of destruction

[–] Lionir 3 points 1 year ago

Is creation the act of bringing forth something that did not before exist, or does creation include creativity?

Yes - it can include creativity as it can include evil.

Creativity can be expressed through these acts of maintenance, nurturing, and care, all of which set at odds of destruction.

Sure it can, that said - I don't think maintenance, nurturing or care are at odds with destruction.

Maintenance can require the destruction of other ideas. For example, if you try to build a society built on love, is it wrong to destroy bigotry? That's not to say that the people expressing these ideas need to be killed but rather that the idea of bigotry must be destroyed from their mind for tolerance to take its place.

Nurturing can be born out of destruction. For example, is Beehaw not born out of the destruction of other platforms? We try to nurture a different culture but I can hardly think it would exist without destruction happening in the first place.

Caring can bring people to destruction. For example, is it not care that makes us want to destroy authorities that harm our loved ones? Is it not care that makes us want to destroy the police system as it exists today?