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Murdered by Words

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Responses that completely destroy the original argument in a way that leaves little to no room for reply - a targeted, well-placed response to another person, organization, or group of people.

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Controlling your sexual desires should be trivial

Maybe it should be, but is it actually trivial? Addiction in general is a real thing, isn't it? For someone with say an eating disorder, maintaining a healthy diet isn't trivial at all. Paraphilias are different morally where they involve harming others and not just yourself and so it's more important to not act on them, but I'm not sure that means it's easier for a person with a paraphilia than it is for other sorts of people struggling with controlling their behavior.

IMO what it comes down to isn't whether these people deserve sympathy though, the more important consideration is preventing abuse. To me what the OP image shows is that the "just kill 'em all" attitude is unhelpful bullshit leading to pedophiles and abusers hiding in plain sight. What would be better is a conditionally supportive community that knows what they are and keeps tabs on them well enough to make sure they stay away from kids.

[–] HappyMeatbag 7 points 1 year ago

Thank you. Your response is better than mine would have been. I especially like what you have to say about the “‘just kill ‘em all’ attitude “.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Feeling sexually attracted is not the same as addiction. If it starts to feel like withdrawal from addiction you have something else going on as well (for example an actual sex addiction). Additionally, pedophiles aren't necessarily exclusively attracted to children.

I do think they should have access to mental health care and they obviously shouldn't be incarcerated or threatened with death. But having respect for them for not abusing children is taking it way too far.

I also don't respect serial killers for every day they don't murder someone, I don't respect racists for every person they pass without punching them, etc.