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The technical merits of Wayland are mostly irrelevant (utcc.utoronto.ca)

submitted 2 years ago by pnutzh4x0r@lemmy.ndlug.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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I say that the technical merits are irrelevant because I don't believe that they're a major factor any more in most people moving or not moving to Wayland.

With only a slight amount of generalization, none of these people will be moved by Wayland's technical merits. The energetic people who could be persuaded by technical merits to go through switching desktop environments or in some cases replacing hardware (or accepting limited features) have mostly moved to Wayland already. The people who remain on X are there either because they don't want to rebuild their desktop environment, they don't want to do without features and performance they currently have, or their Linux distribution doesn't think their desktop should switch to Wayland yet.

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[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Same. I'm sure its great, but I'm not motivated to spend my time and energy on it. I remember when PulseAudio first came out, it had growing pains too. I jumped on board early because it solved problems I needed to solve. I was a younger nerd back then, and I don't have the patience for the cutting edge anymore.

I hear it does indeed work with Nvidia now, so I guess I'll give it another shot next time I distro-hop.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As someone who constantly checks in on the Nvidia + Wayland combination every time there is a Nvidia driver update, it "works" but only by the loosest definition unfortunately.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh. Womp womp.

I need to refamiliarize myself with the state of AI libraries without CUDA. Last I checked it was still a problem. I'd love to never buy Nvidia again.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 2 points 2 years ago

I'm not too well versed in the AI/ML industry, but from what I hear CUDA is still the far prevalent / preferred backend - I don't believe its impossible so to speak, but it definitely involves having to dig a bit deeper for more alternatives.

I hear its also somewhat common to use an AMD GPU for your actual desktop, but then also have an Nvidia GPU strictly for usage of CUDA but of course that's a bit more expensive and also still involves keeping up with Nvidia's hardware.

[–] pelotron@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

Yea, I have a 2080 and try to run a Wayland KDE session every now and then, but so far every time the desktop has ended up frozen after a couple minutes. Reboot back into X it is..

[–] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

just check out a compatible desktop environment/window manager. you don't need to do a full distro change.

if the base is the same (ie. debian, arch, etc) there is no point in changing distros anyways.

[–] dnzm@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Or, maybe, not go out of my way to fit my way of working to someone else's notice of how I should be doing things? If A works and B doesn't, unless I put in a lot of effort... Why exactly would I?