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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's child porn, and as horrifying as you've been told it is. Some scumbag trolls were posting it on lemmy.world's memes sub and so .world finally decided to close open signups.

[–] Freitag@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Bullshit, child porn is "cp". CSAM means Child Sexual Abuse Material

[–] Nechesh 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What would you say is the difference? I feel like the terms are interchangeable. The comment you replied to didn't give the exact abbreviation but it gave the essence of what is meant by the picture.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By OC trying to imply a difference, one could be led to assume that OC believes there is some part of the illegal material that they do not consider abuse.

I vehemently disagree with that line of thinking. It is abuse, and that is why it is illegal.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Who in their right mind thinks calling CP is validating it in any way? Just because some morons decided to make a politically correct term for it doesn't change what it is.

[–] Nechesh 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The politically correct term CSAM is to differentiate it from ordinary porn which is legal and at least somewhat socially acceptable and ensure that people understand that when children are involved, it is always abusive. The terms mean the same thing, but being precise with language is important.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People already understand that. 🤦

[–] Nechesh 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think most people understand it, but even referring to it as a type of "porn" normalizes it to some extent.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

Uh. No it doesn't. This sounds wildly delusional.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

That's absurd. People aren't stupid. We're capable of understanding context and playing semantical games with something so serious is quite honestly pretty offensive.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When did we switch to that instead of CP?

[–] Nechesh 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Porn is a legal thing that normal people enjoy. The term CSAM takes a stance that it is always abuse. I think they are basically interchangeable but CSAM is the currently preferred term.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it is always abuse regardless of the term, so a new term is wildly unnecessary

[–] ursakhiin 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes, terms need changing to separate it from something else. Porn in itself is legal and fine. When adding children in the mix it's easy to get caught up in the porn part of the discussion rather than the child part.

Separating the terms puts the focus more on the child abuse part.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've literally not once seen anyone "get caught up in the porn part" what

[–] ursakhiin 5 points 1 year ago

Have you been paying attention to the debate at all?

Many bills in the US have been proposed to mitigate child porn by just targeting porn in general.

[–] Marketsupreme@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Why are you opposed to using terms that are accurate?