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Jitsi, the open-source video conferencing platform, now requires a Google, Microsoft, or Facebook account for their online service (jitsi.org)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by esaru to c/technology

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While Jitsi is open-source, most people use the platform they provide, meet.jit.si, for immediate conference calls. They have now introduced a "Know Your Customer" policy and require at least one of the attendees to log in with a Facebook, Github (Microsoft), or Google account.

One option to avoid this is to self-host, but then you'll be identifiable via your domain and have to maintain a server.

As a true alternative to Jitsi, there's jami.net. It is a decentralized conference app, free open-source, and account creation is optional. It's available for all major platforms (Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS, Android), including on F-Droid.

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[–] elouboub@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Lol, it was my GOTO specifically because it doesn't require a login and I can send it to my parents who need minimal clicks to enter the room. I even have family that doesn't have a github, facebook, nor google account, so they won't be able to join.

Amazing move Jitsi.

Earlier this year we saw an increase in the number of reports we received about some people using our service in ways that we cannot tolerate. To be more clear, this was not about some people merely saying things that others disliked.

What kind of "illegal things" were they doing? Say it, so that we can comprehend. Make it make sense.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Safe to assume it was child porn, because that ends up being an issue on any service that lets people share images or video privately. By not stating it directly, they don't prompt news organizations to quote the company in click bait articles about how their platform enables child porn as if that wasn't a universal issue that all services have to actively discourage.

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbf I'd not get angry if it was jihadist recruitment, child porn, human trafficking, etc. etc.

[–] knokelmaat 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But won't those criminals always find another way of communicating? If you're doing something illegal, it's worth it to you to go through some hoops to have safe and private communication. All this does is remove that option from less tech literate people.

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But now the illegal content is not happening on their owned instance, taking them off the hook.

[–] koper@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Communication network providers in the EU generally aren't liable for illegal activity of their users.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

That doesn't make it a non-issue. Ignoring the obvious ethical issues, there are still serious costs to addressing conduct they're made aware of, both in terms of actual man hours and mental health of any employees, and the actual bandwidth of the abusive traffic.

[–] viq@social.hackerspace.pl 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@elouboub

@esaru
Shodan finds 21k instances. https://meet.ffmuc.net/ and https://meet.element.io/ are just two, and I don't expect them to require log in.

[–] ReversalHatchery 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm on mobile, but does meet.element.io just work? I would expect that to only work for Matrix users

[–] viq@social.hackerspace.pl 2 points 1 year ago

@ReversalHatchery
Just verified (from mobile) and it just works 🤷

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 5 points 1 year ago

If I'm reading it correctly, you only need one person in the meeting to have one of those accounts.