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What's an equivalent replacement for the word "lame"? (self.chat)

submitted 1 year ago by FlickOfTheBean to c/chat

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I don't know if I'm just becoming overly sensitive to my own language or if this is an actual issue, so feel free to let me know if it seems that I just need to grow thicker skin, but still.

I keep getting this uneasy feeling whenever I use the word "lame" and I think it's because I'm starting to realize it's technically ableist. However, there's no single non-profane word that I know of that fits the niche that I use it in.

For example, I wrote out something earlier about a behavior I do that I don't like that I do because I think it's kind of shitty behavior, but it's overall harmless. I use lame to describe it casually. I could also call it kind of shitty, as I did before, but not to audiences that I don't want to use profanity around.

Anyone know of a word I can replace "lame" with?

I'd say maybe weak, but that's got its own baggage that I'm not sure I'm ok with switching to. Annoying is too strong of a word for what I'm going for. Maybe lame is a short word for "this makes me feel slightly sad"?

Idk, so I open it up to the public: Is this even an issue or am I being too sensitive? Could this be solved in a single replacement word or do I need a whole ass phrase to express this?

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[–] jarfil 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kind of.

Plato in 400BC already proposed breeding out the "weak", so it's not like the idea of eugenics is particularly new.

The word "moron" was created in the 20th century as a "scientific" word... by one of the main proponents of the modern eugenics movement, which started in the 19th century, with no prior use, so yeah, that one is definitely burned.

"Dullard" comes from 10th century English, already with a derogatory meaning, but it seems like English preferred using "lunatic", "mad" or "insane" in its legal wording.

"Idiot" comes from ancient Greek meaning "layman", "ignorant", later "illiterate", and only in the 14th centuries it came to mean "stupid" or "mentally deficient", and then it went on to differentiate the "mentally deficient" from the "lunatics" (mentally ill).

"Imbecile" is more interesting, it seems to stem from the Latin "in-bacillus" or "without little staff"... which has gone through the meanings of "weak", "cowardly", "impotent"... and knowing Romans and their insults, is likely to have started as just "dickless", which is kind of mild for the period. There is however some 17th century legal stuff where women got considered as invalid witnesses "because of imbecility and sexual frailty", which seems to be about when the word took its modern meaning.

Overall, the Eugenics movement seems to have mostly used words that were already established for centuries, just pushed them a few steps farther.

[–] ArtZuron 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminds me of "Hysteria" which was effectively just the medical excuse to penalize women for getting "uppity." Nowadays, there's even one that the police have been using recently called "excited delirium" or something, which is what they try to compel coroners to use when they kill someone through unreasonable levels of force when those people fight for their lives.

[–] jarfil 1 points 1 year ago

The story of "hysteria" starts at around 2000BC, in ancient Egypt, when they thought the uterus was a sort of "animal" that could wander around the body. At least it had an easy symptomatic solution, not exactly a penalty for the women reaching "paroxysmal convulsions", and it devolved into the invention of the vibrator, with its cheap hand-cranked version, and poor Hitachi unable to separate its brand from the wand no matter how much they try. With a sad irony, it did play a role in the eugenics... hysteria? of the 19th-20th centuries. The film by the same name, may have painted a slightly different picture.

I didn't know of "excited delirium", and apparently the term has been withdrawn, it's "hyperactive delirium syndrome" starting this year... remains to be seen whether it keeps targeting tased black males in restraints (damn, the US has a big problem).