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[–] athos77@kbin.social 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"What this advertising boycott is going to do is it's going to kill the company," he said.

Nobody owes you anything, you idiot. Businesses have the right to decide not to advertise with you, people have the right not to go to your platform, groups have the right not to host their content there. Your business was a convenient and vaguely congenial place for everyone to meet, but that's not true anymore.

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 months ago

They only want a market that's free for them.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 22 points 11 months ago

At this point there is zero doubt left that Musk is an idiot.

All he did was being born rich and being lucky with his investments so far.

[–] shiveyarbles 14 points 11 months ago

I can't imagine being a multi billionaire and being such a miserable attention whore

[–] umbraroze@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

You know, at this point, any sensible company will take a single look at Musk's tantrums and decide that advertising on Twitter is a massive legal liability they cannot afford. Not only is their public image in danger because the content is so badly moderated and offensive content is allowed, but Musk threatens to sue them if they even consider terminating their existing campaigns. Heck, this is to say nothing about the impersonators. The only way for brands to stay safe is to get the hell out and just state that they have no official presence on Twitter. Staying on Twitter is just a disaster waiting to happen.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Elon seems more and more like an escaped mental patient....

I think the stress is really getting to him, I feel kinda bad for him actually....

Or, I would feel bad for him, if he wasn't a complete dickhead.

[–] SapphironZA@lemmings.world 5 points 11 months ago

He's in the early stages of turning orange.

[–] ulkesh 6 points 11 months ago

One day, Elon will no longer exist. That will be a good day for humanity. But sadly he's just a symptom of the billionaires-exist problem. If a matter-energy conversion device ever gets invented and hopefully democratized, money will become meaningless -- and it will drown people like him in their own narcissism.

[–] jray4559@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Elon Musk finally learns the real truth that no one really wants to say: There is no such thing as free speech in the United States.

If saying an opinion gets you fired from your job, or gets advertisers pulled from your site: guess what, that opinion might as well be banned from being posted.

Being held at virtual gunpoint from corporations is no different from being held at actual gunpoint from governments. This is why right-wingers complain about bannings, because, well, they have a point. Even left-wingers get hit with this too, as certain Palestine supporters that aren't careful enough with their wording are finding out.

I'd rather at least have the government say "To promote social cohesion and understanding, saying X opinion about Y groups of people, and stating Z false information will no longer be allowed". Don't get me wrong, that's still invasive as hell and a horrifying precedent to set, but having to walk on eggshells for fear of virtual lynch mobs that can pop up at will and say "He said X he said X fire him and uproot his life or we will drag you through the mud and make you lose precious consumer money!!!!" with little rhyme or reason, never stopping until their existence in society is ruined is not something that a society should support either.

That is simply vigilante justice via keyboard instead of handgun.

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago

There is no such thing as free speech in the United States.

If saying an opinion gets you fired from your job, or gets advertisers pulled from your site: guess what, that opinion might as well be banned from being posted.

Free speech is when you can say things without consequences, apparently? So I guess your free speech to say stupid shit is more important than other peoples' free speech to react to what you say or to choose not to associate with you?

I'm surprised at how many knuckledraggers seem to forget that freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences, and freedoms go both ways.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago

You’re fucking around right?

If you say shitty things then expect shitty responses.

Why should we have to have a law about it?

Does this mean I have to shop from someone who says things I disagree with?

It’s the social contract friend, at least we aren’t in England or Russia where people are getting arrested over blank pieces of paper.

Although that might have changed already for all I know.

[–] krellor@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

Free speech is about protecting people from a government response to their speech, and even that carves out exceptions for incitement to violence, yelling fire in a crowded theater, etc. I know you mention government bans of certain language, but it misses the mark of what we have defined free speech to be, which is protection from government reprisal.

I have to disagree with the notion that we don't have free speech because people face consequences for what they say. Those consequences may be an inducement to behave in a social cohesive or expected way, but even if you wanted to protect people from that, it would require infringing on others rights. The advertisers have a right not to be associated with Musk. I have a right to dissociate from racists. The only way to protect racists from these consequences would be to infringe on my right not to associate with them.

[–] dirtypirate@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

loosing a shitty job vs a mob tearing you from your bed, stripping you naked, beating you, setting you on fire and posing with your mangled carcass....

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/45/75/77/9953221/5/1200x0.jpg

totally the same... reicht?