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Plasma 6 Bugs

If you encounter a bug, proceed to https://bugs.kde.org, check whether it has been reported.

If it hasn't, report it yourself.

PLEASE THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE POSTING HERE.

Developers do not look for reports on social media, so they will not see it and all it does is clutter up the feed.

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Why wait for Microsoft to catch up with what we've been doing for decades?

Get Plasma, a modern, fully functional, clean, privacy-respecting, non-intrusive operating system now, regardless from where you live and ditch Windows for good.

https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/

#windows #DMA

@kde@lemmy.kde.social

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[–] Resonanz@slrpnk.net 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why wait for Windows to change when you can get Linux? ;)

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[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 10 points 11 months ago

Also, if you live outside of Europe, you'll be waiting very long.

[–] Killercat103@infosec.pub 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tbh. I don't really mind this ad. :) Non-profit? Ethical software? More people should use it

[–] Bro666@lemmy.kde.social 4 points 11 months ago

Not an Ad. PSA.

[–] forolinux@mastodon.social 5 points 11 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I use #gnulinux and KDE, now #kdeplasma since "I don't remember when" years, before the existence of #fedora.
I use it at work, home, to play videogames, for everything, and I can only recommend them. Step forward, respect yourself, take back your freedom and give them a chance.

[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How will people download chrome?

[–] jex@mas.to 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@elxeno @kde
Chocolatey. https://community.chocolatey.org/packages/GoogleChrome

Firefox, preferably. Also done via Chocolatey. Web browsers for getting a software install is so stringy.

[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I used that before quitting windows, but it doesn't help since u have to copy commands from the website to install chocolatey.

[–] closetfurry@yiffit.net 4 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Been wondering about jumping ship to Linux after I got some hands on experience through the Steam Deck, but I hear that they don't have the same wide compatibility with various Hardware, plus there are a lot of programs you can't get.

If I want Clip Studio Paint, be able to play games with anti cheat AND be able to stream comfortably with OBS and the XLR microphones I have... Can I reasonably expect to be able to do all these things without a hitch?

[–] Index_Case@feddit.uk 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Have been trying Linux Mint on a spare laptop as a complete N00b. Can't get a huion screen tablet to work, nor an older xp non-screen one. Only option I've found for software is Krita (which isn't bad, actually), but no CSP.

Couldn't get a controller to work properly either without having to install some stuff via command line / terminal, which I wasn't comfortable doing (I commented about having to do this on another post elsewhere and some guy was like super aggressive about how I didn't need to, and was lying apparently... 🤷 )

Other than that, it's a been a pretty smooth experience. That's not sarcasm, its genuinely been interesting experience poking about and giving it a go. May just not be ready for my use case yet.

[–] closetfurry@yiffit.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's honestly comforting! Thank you for your feedback. I might consider it more. How difficult is setting up a dual boot or something?

[–] Index_Case@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I actually found the whole bootloader and how to dual boot thing a bit non-intuitive and generally unclear as to what I should do. But maybe that's just me. In the end, as it was a spare laptop, I just went full Linux Mint, reasoning that I can always reinstall Windows later....

[–] closetfurry@yiffit.net 1 points 11 months ago

Thank you! I appreciate the honesty a TON

[–] not_amm 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Since most people don't use Linux, drivers and software aren't usually developed for it. Although, a reasonable company would develop just in case or help you get a solution, it's unusual. Most computers are supported, but there is very specific hardware that may not have support or you'll find bugs.

I'd recommend you to search (and test with an USB in Live mode) about your hardware and ask in communities about this specific topics. There are music communities, movies, math, streaming, etc.

And no, I don't think you'll find anticheat support because most Linux users don't want closed shady software modifying their kernel (but there are solutions being worked on).

[–] Bro666@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

drivers and software aren’t usually developed for [Linux].

This is not very accurate. Despite having a small user base, kernel developers add hundreds of drivers every new version, and the number of end user programs developed by communities (such as KDE and GNOME) and independent teams, has ballooned in recent years.

[–] not_amm 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're right, I should specify that it's mostly for niche hardware. But even though there are developers trying, sometimes those devices are barely usable or have bugs and/or vulnerabilities.

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[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago

You generally need to get software and hardware that is compatible with your operating system and processor architecture. It’s true that the most used platforms will have the best support, but you have that problem with any OS.

And it’s also not like games with anti cheat generally don’t work with Linux. Proton+Steam does support Valve Anti-Cheat, Easy Anti-Cheat and BattlEye. It’s just that developers have to explicitly enable Linux support for EAC and BattlEye.

[–] Sqaaakoi@wetdry.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@closetfurry @kde Please be slightly more specific regarding "anti-cheat". Do you play competitive shooter games? If yes, then you're probably out of luck for those unfortunately :(

[–] closetfurry@yiffit.net 1 points 11 months ago

Correct there. Not super competitive as a person, so I play casually for fun

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[–] Rastal@mastodon.social 4 points 11 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social "We turned your computer into a platform designed to bombard you with ads, full of useless bloatware, a system designed to pigeon hole you into using and paying for Microsoft products, which is unsafe to connect to the internet without an antivirus and which will break every time we force an update on you." = What Microsoft would say if they were honest describing Windows!

#switchtolinux

[–] ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.com 2 points 11 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I wiped my drive and installed Linux on my primary deskyop the day I saw the first leaked screenshots of windows 11.

Never regretted it. And never going back.

[–] Locutus@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Plasma is a desktop environment and NOT a OS. Might want to know whet you are talking about before posting.

[–] PerryPeak@noc.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@Locutus @kde I think they said operating system because people coming from Windows might not know what a desktop environment is

[–] Bro666@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 11 months ago

You are right. Also, a desktop environment, at least from an end user's perspective, is as part of the OS as a kernel, terminal, and its associated tools. We are just using the language that a non-techie can understand and act upon.

Either way, "operating system" is a woolly and ambiguous term that is hard to define precisely and changes meanings depending on who you ask. The common denominator in common non technical English seems to be "software that allows you to manage you hardware and applications". If that is so, yep, Plasma fits the bill.

[–] Sobex@social.sciences.re 1 points 11 months ago
[–] johnfocker@mamot.fr 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I love plasma for not being gnome but I'm tired of all the bugs I've got with each and every update on arch. Your stable channel is actually a forever beta channel.
At this point I'm just waiting and hoping Cosmic will be good enough.

[–] Bro666@lemmy.kde.social 5 points 11 months ago

General reminder: if you find bugs in Plasma, please report them!

To @johnfocker@mamot.fr in particular: All software contains bugs, but if you could provide some examples of the ones you find most annoying, maybe we can see if they are already solved or look into their cause.

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[–] shved@mastodon.social 1 points 11 months ago (8 children)

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Never heard of Plasma, nor am I in linux ecosystem yet, but from brief googling Plasma telemetry and developer attitude towards it is concerning

https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/f2bg69/kde_plasma_518_comes_with_builtin_telemetry_optin/

[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Been using it for over a year now and there's just one slider for telemetry that sends them anonymous desktop/KDE apps usage data, and you can limit how much you wanna send them. And i personally haven't heard of any controversy surrounding that. Also its opt in unlike windows.

[–] valentin_petzel@aut.social 4 points 11 months ago

@shved @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Sorry, but this is a pretty opinionates post about a simple feature. Yes, KDE has Telemetry options. But these are entirely opt in, so unless you explicitely choose to send data you will never send data. The data that is being sent is fully transparent, as we have access to the source code. I belief it is mostly used for interface decisions (such as what window sizes are people using). So I cannot see the point.

[–] Flux@social.fluxfox.dev 4 points 11 months ago

@shved @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social is opt-in, not opt-out.

No telemetry gets collected unless you explicitly give permission (and they don't nag or try to trick you into giving it). Overall, KDE is incredibly good for privacy

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[–] tnypxl@mstdn.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I wish all those proclamations were achievable without a boat load of tradeoffs:

[–] nerdfeelscool@techhub.social 1 points 11 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Using Gnome 45. Absolute adore it's out of the box polish. But yeah, Linux > Mac >>>>>>> Windows

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