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I would like to know if I can feel safe here, or if I should pack it up and start looking elsewhere sooner rather than later.

If the kbin staff have already made there intentions clear, please let me know.

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[–] wagesj45@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you're truly worried about federating with Meta, you should probably also avoid all the other products they have their fingers in.

This includes all their web properties:

  • Instagram
  • WhatsApp
  • Onavo
  • Oculus VR
  • Beat Games
  • Kustomer
  • Lofelt

But this also includes many web technologies that are ubiquitous around the web. Meta has either created or contributes code and resources to:

  • React.js
  • MySql
  • Memcached
  • HHVM
  • Cassandra
  • Scribe
  • Hadoop
  • Hive
  • Apache Thrift
  • Varnish

I suspect you'll have a hard time finding any website on earth that doesn't use at least one of these technologies.

[–] livus@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sorry if tbis is dumb of me but why should we avoid ever using any web tech that has been associated with Meta, just because we are worried about E-E-E affecting Activity Pub?

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[–] sparseMatrix@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Roundcat

Meta is facebook who engaged Cambridge Analytica to purchase our lives.

Not from us, but from them. Facebook literally sold out the world

Facebook nearly destroyed this country for a buck.

Fuck facebook. I don't want to avoid federating because I dont want them around; I want to avoid federating because anything I can do to starve them of every resource for growth that I possibly can is the best thing I can do about facebook.

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[–] techviator@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A lot of the FUD regarding #Threads joining the #Fediverse has been put to sleep by #Mastodon on this blog post:
https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/07/what-to-know-about-threads/

"The fact that large platforms are adopting ActivityPub is not only validation of the movement towards decentralized social media, but a path forward for people locked into these platforms to switch to better providers."

Also @daringfireball made this blog post that I agree with:
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/06/19/not-that-kind-of-open

"the idea that administrators of Mastodon/Fediverse instances should pledge to preemptively block Facebook’s imminent Twitter-like ActivityPub service (purportedly named Threads) strikes me as petty and deliberately insular. I don’t like Facebook, the company, and I’ve never seen the appeal of Facebook, the product (a.k.a. “the blue app”). But there are literally billions of good people who use their services. Why cut them off from the open ActivityPub social world?"

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[–] Perry@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Meta federating would be the best thing to ever happen to the Fediverse. Face it, Fediverse is not by its own in a billion years going to somehow kill off Meta. The vast, vast majority of users are going to stay with traditional social media, there’s nothing we can do about that.

However, Meta et al actually joining the Fediverse means we won. The vast majority will still stay with Meta’s services, but no one here has to. This is the closest we will ever get to a truly open standard for social media.

I don’t want to have an account with Meta or Twitter or whatever, but I, like most people, want to be able to communicate with the people who do.

As I see it, there are only two ways forward for the Fediverse:

  1. Traditional SoMe stays closed and inaccessible for anyone who doesn’t want to sell their soul to Meta. The vast majority of people still use traditional SoMe and the Fediverse stays a minuscule hobby project at best. Even here, most people will probably also have accounts on the traditional platforms in order to not cut oneself off from the world.

  2. Traditional SoMe embraces open standards and anyone who cares can choose to use whatever service they want. The vast majority of people still use traditional SoMe, but the Fediverse now has access to billions of people (or not, you can choose yourself) without having to become a commodity that Meta can sell to advertisers.

Ideally, instead of having to register a Meta account, I can just stay with Kbin.social without losing access to the content.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Traditional SoMe embraces open standards

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh man that's a good one

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[–] kglitch@kglitch.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are over 70 kbin instances. If kbin.social is not to your liking, you can find another. https://fedidb.org/software/kbin

https://kglitch.social has defederated from Meta (well, blocked the domains that meta is expected to use). Registrations are open.

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[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If ans when it federates, you have a handy-dandy button that lets you block instances.

[–] crossmr@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As far as I know that doesn't work. I know I've blocked feddit.de but still get it on my front page.

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