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I’ve been silently moaning about the transfer speeds to my storage devices.

Only today did I think to plug the network cable directly into the mesh satellite and not into a switch and over Powerline. 10x speed boost.

I’m an idiot and I’m posting here so I don’t get too cocky next time.

Feel free to laugh.

(“Advice” flair just on the tiny chance that someone else could be helped. )

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[–] Pvt-Snafu@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Well, I was ranting about internet speed being lower than advertised after optics installation which should be 1GbE (I got only 300MbE) until I understood that the Asus router I bought a couple of days before that was just 300MbE.

[–] No_Dragonfruit_5882@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Powerline is the last resort in Networking.

Cable > WiFi > Powerline.

In some cases it works (new cables and within 1 circiut) but usually its more headache than anything else.

But dont worrys we all did shit and wonder why it didnt work.

Just be glad you were not called to a datacenter and started tracing all fibers just to realize that a single stupid uplink is 1 gbit instead of 40 gbit

[–] Is-Not-El@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] 3-2-1-backup@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kind of want someone to re-run the numbers on this with updated storage densities.

[–] spryfigure@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

And updated line capabilities. China just unveiled a data line with 1.2 TB/s. This is nothing to sneeze at.

[–] 3-2-1-backup@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I'm going to disagree with you there, it's completely situationally dependent. I tried running a wifi point-to-point link from my house to my detached garage, ran like hot garbage. Replaced the link with powerline, was much more stable and faster.

Right tool for the right job. Well really the right tool is to bury something (preferably fiber) between the buildings, but I'm not made out of money and the power line was already buried!

[–] SaintEyegor@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Powerline is horrendous. It’s not only slow AF and sensitive to the underlying power layout in your house, it also causes massive amounts of electrical noise which can mess with receivers, etc.

[–] bobj33@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

At my parents house I reused the coax cable for TV. I got a few Moca adapters and I get about 500Mbit/s and they are reliable. It was easier than running Ethernet cable through the walls and outside the house

[–] JonPaula@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Where's MoCA fit into this? Haha.

[–] abidelunacy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like that when I meticulously examine every cable in a new computer build then forget to plug the power cable... /facepalm

[–] fallsdarkness@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I spent hours diagnosing my network over inconsistent speeds. I was stumped, then I finally checked the syslog and found the machine was running out of RAM. Got a bit too liberal with dockers on a 8GB machine. Ordered a 32GB kit immediately while cursing under my breath lol.

[–] JRHZ28@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Using an older PC as a home server. Couldn't get transfer speeds even close to 100. Fought it for a year or more. One day I happen to catch the resources being maxed out. Eliminated some resources hogs and bam... Transfers went way up. I've tried a couple different Powerline network devices and none have worked very well.

[–] Pup5432@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My winner of winners was flaky connection from our gateway router to my lab. It slowly degraded over time and got to the point I was lucky to get 10MB transfer speeds. Rebuilt my main server 3-4 times trying different things to fix it. Hooked up another server and it could talk to the first server fine. Thought it was a bad switch but everything tested fine until I found one link that wasn’t operating properly. Long story short some type of varment got ahold of my copper run in our craw space and damaged it enough to work but not well.

[–] prone-to-drift@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im my mind, connections like this are either fine or fubar. I wouldn't have imagined a digital connection behaving like this even in my dreams!

[–] Pup5432@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I “think” what was going on was it was a barely working run that was flipping between 100/1000. Both ends at the time we’re unmanaged switches so I didn’t have a good way to check. Because of that I did swap the one to a little 8 port Cisco managed switch so I won’t fall into this trap again.

[–] hungoverlord@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Don't feel too bad. I made a nearly identical post 3 years ago, it even has the exact same title: https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/jdpkm7/im_an_idiot/

[–] skooterz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It really is amazing how terrible Powerline still is after 20+ years.

There are times where it's the best solution but it's still nowhere close to ideal.

[–] firedrakes@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Had a 1gb speed network.... 1 day speed was 10mb transfer... took me week ti figure out 1 cable connected to device got damaged.
It was super easy to spot. If I taken a min f my time too look.

[–] WraithTDK@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Powerline in general is a bad idea

[–] Skeeter1020@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

When I upgraded my internet from 60mpbs to 1gbps, I discovered multiple 100mbps switches and poor quality (so limited to 100mbps) cables dotted across my house that had presumably been there for years.

[–] grumpy_autist@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

In my company we've been investigating 1Gbps ethernet link between Cisco switches having only 150 kbps data rate.

It was a big ISP with engineers who could decipher IP packets from screen hex dump in their mind (I shit you not) and best Cisco support money can buy.

After few weeks it turned out that disabling auto speed negotiation and forcing 1G rate fixed the issue. And yes - all interfaces claimed that it was always 1G negotiated.