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Seriously this was very surprising. I've been experimenting with GrayJay since it was announced and I largely think it's a pretty sweet app. I know there are concerns over how it isn't "true open source" but it's a hell of a lot more open than ReVanced. Plus, I like the general design and philosophy of the app.

I updated the YouTube backend recently and to my surprise and delight they had added support for SponsorBlock. However, when I went to enable it, it warned me "turning this on harms creators" and made me click a box before I could continue.

Bruh, you're literally an ad-blocking YouTube frontend. What kind of mental gymnastics does it take to be facilitating ad-blocking and then at the same time shame the end-user for using an extension which simply automates seeking ahead in videos. Are you seriously gonna tell me that even without Sponsorblock, if I skip ahead past the sponsored ad read in a video, that I'm "harming the creator"?

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[–] Skelectus@suppo.fi 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think they said that they technically don't block ads. They just don't implement them. If youtube were to somehow pack ads into the video stream, they wouldn't go around it. Though I'm sure that in such case an adblock extension would pop up very fast.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Since the app has ties to creators, I get why they disapprove of sponsorblock, but... Why did they implement it if they don't like it?

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

Certainly there was big demand for it. I was hoping they'd eventually implement it as I'd been testing the app out

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

I get why they disapprove of sponsorblock

The app strips analytics and watch data preventing views from being counted. So the argument doesn't logically make sense. They're trying to make a moral argument out of something that doesn't and can't have any impact because the data used to justify watch-time and engagement isn't provided.

[–] Kuro@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are they even able to see when their baked in ads get skipped over?

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

Kinda. YouTube has stats about which times of a video are watched more proportionally for a single view. You can ironically usually use this data to see when a sponsor spot ends (to skip to it) since there will be a peak in the watch time curve.

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