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So I was watching a few youtubes and remembered how the vast majority (of like the ten) nes games me and my sister had were hard as all hell. I loved to play Little Nemo and Street Fighter 2010 but I am pretty sure I never made it past the third level of either. Let alone infamously hard games like The Lion King.

Which got me thinking. Basically every game for the past 20 years has been designed around instant gratification and being accessible. We outright had to make a new concept "hard but fair" to account for games like Dark Souls that are designed to be difficult but beatable as opposed to putting you in a death spiral if you hesitate too long on a hard jump (hello Ninja Gaiden).

So do the younger folk even have a concept of a "favorite game" where you likely never experienced more than fifteen minutes worth of content?

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[–] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do I need to explain any further?

[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s why I only play aram, urf and 5v5 lmao

[–] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, I went to play PokΓ©mon Unite instead (even tho Nintendo and their Switch & Mobile only approach)... Bluestacks is an option but not a particularly good one...

And then there's Tencent - but you encounter Tencent kinda everywhere right now so ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[–] Remmock@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

So the thing about these linds of games is that you theoretically can master any Champion/PokΓ©mon, but there are some that you just intuitively understand. Keep trying different characters until you find one you gel with in Standard/non-Ranked matches, then get a feel for how to improve your runes/items by playing Ranked and studying your shortcomings. It’s how I found out that I love to play walls and use items that optimize walls for damage. (Iceborn Gauntlet, Sunfire, Demonic Embrace type stuff for LoL and Rocky Helmet/Shell Bell/Drain Crown for Unite.)

[–] communist 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I brute forced my way through learning starcraft, it took literal years to get out of the bronze league, probably my most played game of all time. Can't wait for immortal gates of pyre.

[–] azthec@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Yea StarCraft 2 was this game for me. I first saw some beta gameplay from TotalBiscuit and just got hooked into it and I was so ridiculously bad. I still play every year around Christmas for some reason

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[–] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

KSP. Never managed to even land on the MΓΌn without a fast and violent end to the crew, but I loved building spaceships.

The best thing I managed to do was to achieve an orbit around Kerbin.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I could do manned missions to Mun and Minmus, but I don't think in my hundreds of hours of play I ever set Kerbal feet on another planet. I did launch some probes though.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shoot same! I swear to God it was like the controls were broken on every rocket I ever made. No matter how symmetrical it was I felt like I was always fighting the controls.

[–] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It was the blessed Kraken.

Did, and still do enjoy fast-paced shooters from time to time but I absolutely suck at it. Sometimes you just need to do something exciting without putting too much thought into it and not having a care about whether you win or lose, what your K/D is or whatever. I just find it a nice way to unwind from time to time.

[–] Fizzlebleam@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am a young user of lemmy ( I am in high school ), And, I really suck in games, but I love the blinding of isaac: repentance,I didnt played as many games as that, but I think it is the hardest game I've played, and my favorite.

[–] bigoljim@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keep and it, in a few years you can be like me. An old guy who loves Issac, but still sucks at it!

[–] Fizzlebleam@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

yeah, it is fun to try and retry, and I love the fact that every game you play are different in some ways. I began to watch "Learning of isaac" from Shisheyu , it is very fun and usefull. Btw do you think people can be interested by a AMA I'm a high school student ( in France)

edit: I wrote "I'm a high school", but I'm a human.

[–] bigoljim@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the variety is amazing. That is the best part by far!

[–] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I absolutely sucked at games as a kid, Most of my absolute favourite games I played all day for months on end as a kid I still never finished... even on the easiest setting.

Wasn't until my 20s I started going back to a lot of these games and finally completing them 100% on hardest mode. It's quite a feeling :)

[–] Destraight@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Noita. People say the final boss is the tutorial boss πŸ’€

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[–] nayminlwin@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Dota and Starcraft 1/2

[–] populustree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i like ddr alot, but i suck ass at it

still a fan

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] populustree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

dance dance revolution, a neat arcade rhythm game played with your feet

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have we reached an age of the Internet where people don't know what DDR is anymore??

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Dance dance revolution.

[–] ferrodegaragem@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dragon's Dogma Remix πŸ˜‚

[–] MrBubbles96@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm obligated to post this since Dragon's Dogma was mentioned:

https://youtu.be/SZNbabKjKpA?si=b7chvHH0hHdki0RP

[–] MrBubbles96@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Dunno if I'd consider myself "younger" anymore (who am i kidding, i ain't THAT old lol), but...

If we count really old games: the OG castlevania's. Didn't grow up during that era, but thanks to handmedowns, i got to play pre Symphany Vania when i was super young. Love them, wish i was better at them tho. The collections are sitting in my steam library, and maybe some day, I'll beat at least one of the classics.

For something more recent(?) tho, i love me some Touhou. fangames, offically made games by Zun, fan games in the style of Zun, ya name it....but MAN do i suck at the actual bullethell Touhou games. i can make it past two or 3 stages, but then the boss destroys me and I'm like "I CAN choose continue, nothing but pride is stopping me...but also, if i can't manage this far without continuing, how bad is the rest gonna be??" and wuss out lol

[–] mdhughes@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Well now I just want to watch young people try to beat the unbeatable games of my yout'.

Prince of Persia, Mega Man X, Ghosts & Goblins, Ecco the Dolphin (my favorite, but I screamed so much at Ecco dying one pixel away from air). Zork without a walkthru. Solve all the puzzles yourself or by talking to friends also playing it blind.

And you paid $60 ($200 in today's bullshit money) for this, you can't get another for 3 months.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Terraria. Spent so much time in it. Tons of fun. I liked a lot of it. But I compared to other friends and realized I was terrible and barely even saw much of the game cause I didn't get very far.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago
[–] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Age of Empires 2. Love the game, but I'm terrible at it... I can barely beat the medium AI. I was defeated in pretty much every online match.

[–] SecretPancake@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

I am not young but I can’t beat Souls games. I adore the world design of Dark Souls, Bloodbourne and Elden Ring but I just can’t motivate myself to suffer through them. I know they are beatable, there are many safepoints, but I don’t have fun doing that. Still, I wish these games had a difficulty slider for anyone who just wants to enjoy the story. But that will freak out the gamer bros who think that will somehow ruin their precious game.

And it’s not like I never play anything on hard mode. Games like Sniper Elite work best in β€žAuthenticβ€œ mode for me. In puzzle games I always turn off any assistance if possible. But simply increasing the health bar of bosses is not my understanding of fun.

How do you define young?

I'm definitely too old but I loved Tarkov before cheaters ruined it.

I know some early-20's folks who grew up on DayZ.

Both games very hard to not suck at.

[–] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me, Dwarf Fortress. I have never gotten far in that game. It's fascinated me since I was 13, and I still suck at it.

[–] minthenry@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Does it count I loved Quake 3 back in the day? Wasn't good at all at it but still I think it's one of the greatest games ever made and I loved playing it, especially Rocket Arena.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I could never beat PokΓ©mon Blue because I chose the grass starter.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I won't stand for this Bulbasaur slander

I beat that game at 10 years old with only my starter. Like I knew in concept you should train other Pokemon but I just had a level 86 Blastoise by the end of the game.

[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'm a younger user of lemmy in the sense that I've only been a Fediverse user for less than a year. πŸ˜‡

Starcraft (1 and 2). I suck. Suck in the "had trouble finishing the campaign on Normal, couldn't get out of Bronze league" sense of suck.

But I love it. It's my favourite video game, though these days I only watch it rather than play it, for reasons of see above.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not that young anymore but I put more hours into Planetside 2 than is even reasonable for how fucking bad I am at it.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I love Supreme Commander. Terrible at it.

All rhythm games and fighting games.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Road Rash on the PS1, absolutely loved it but could barely win a race on it πŸ˜‚ yeeting other riders off their motorbikes was too much fun.

Also thought the video cutscenes and menus looked kinda cool back then, especially compared to the simple ones in fighting games (tekken, versus etc). Actually thinking about it now, the music on Tekken's character select screen really made you feel like you were in an arcade

[–] Helix@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

There's a spiritual successor to Road Rash which is Road Redemption, I can recommend it. I found it to be a bit easier to control.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Young? How young? Because I'm older than most video game consoles...

Depends on how young you mean exactly, but there's a niche space warfare simulator (simulator in the sense that it only uses currently or very close to existing technology, models the behavior of every major component on a ship, and the developer has stated that it intentionally isn't made to be balanced as their motive for making it was partially to see what kind of strategies might become dominant in a space war rather than create a balanced game, obviously a true simulator of a space war would be difficult considering one hasn't happened yet) called "Children of a Dead Earth" that I really like the concept of, and really want to enjoy, but have never been able to properly get into, because I've never managed to design ship components that are particularly efficient or effective compared to premade examples, and my experience in games like Kerbal space program havent given me a good enough understanding of the game's more realistic orbital mechanics to figure out how to maneuver my fleets properly. It feels like a game that one needs to be a bigger space nerd than I am to properly enjoy, but that same effort at realism is why I find it so appealing in the first place.

[–] tebro@lemmy.tebro.fi 2 points 1 year ago

Escape from tarkov. I am intrigued by the concept of the game, but each time I played I was outmatched in gear and skill.

[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I recommend you go visit the Dwarf Fortress forums.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like the answer is yes, but I can't remember what if any game it was. Its just the feeling is familiar.

[–] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love "Independence War 2: Edge of Chaos". I even run its official fansite.

To this day, I have never finished the game because it's hard. I mostly play it like a sandbox space pirate simulator. :D

[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

League of Legends

Damn that shit is hard

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