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[–] Y_Pon@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you have plans to upload the app to F-droid?

[–] darkawower@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] 7890yuiop@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Awesome; thank you.

[–] reddit_ran@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's your plan for synchronization issues? I mean, lots of guys, it's going to use primarily a desktop environment and I guess mainly using the phone to have a browser kind of functionalities as primary features. Okay, active test server will get access to synchronize in the future. I saw your information about what's your plan here? Are you going to use a syncthing or your own version of server?

[–] darkawower@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am currently working on my own note synchronization server (I need it because I plan to try to integrate CRDT in the future).

I would also like to mention that currently notes are not encrypted on the client side. However, I also plan to implement this in the future.

I do not plan to integrate third-party synchronization mechanisms, but I will be working on an API that allows for custom extensions. With this API, developers will be able to create their own note synchronization mechanisms

[–] mlk@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

IMHO the best way would be using git, which is literally made to resolve this kind of conflicts and it's very battle tested. I've always had issues syncing notes until I switched to git.

[–] darkawower@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As far as I know, git can't be used for real-time synchronization and simultaneous collaborative editing. But I'll give it some thought

[–] mlk@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

is simultaneous collaborative editing a real need though? I'd say org notes are usually edited by a single person, often from multiple devices, unless you are trying to create a Google Docs competitor, I don't think that's a feature that is actually needed.

git also has the advantage of complete history and easy rollbacks.

I've given up using Orgzly because the syncing is atrocious, it has restored deleted notes multiple times. I'm now using Organice with gitlab backend and it works very well.

[–] darkawower@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I need to think about it. The server functionality is also needed to share notes, although it may be possible to combine it with git storage as well

[–] meedstrom@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

For what it's worth, I collaborate with 1 other person, and for me it'd be sufficient if you simply alerted the user that someone else is currently editing the notes, locking them until the other user is done. What's a much bigger problem is if someone edits the notes offline tries to sync them later!

[–] meedstrom@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I do collaborate on org notes with a partner! I agree with you that true simultaneous editing is unnecessary, but it'd be nice if the app flagged that someone else is currently editing the notes and locked them until the other person is done.

[–] Mooks79@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Any prospect of an iOS app?

[–] darkawower@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Right now you can install [PWA](https://github.com/Artawower/orgnote/wiki/orgnote-install#pwa-1) for ios, it works almost like a native app.

An iOS developer account costs about 100$ per year. If we raise this amount on Patreon, I will publish the app in the app store as well

[–] darkawower@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Hey, guys! A little over a year ago I started working on a mobile app to sync notes from org-roam with my phone, so far this is what I've got. The main motivation is to take notes not only in emacs but also on mobile devices. Also, I would like to share my notes with colleagues and friends without the crooked synchronization via markdown

This is an early beta version of the app, however I would like to open access to test offline functionality, active testers will also get access to synchronization in the future.

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[–] GlobalRevolution@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Pretty cool! Currently I'm using Orgzly (well.. Orgzly revived since development stopped https://github.com/orgzly-revived/orgzly-android-revived )

Web might be enough for me but do you plan on making an Android version?

Right now I use git to track all of my org documents but syncing and capturing from my phone is a pain. I need git because I run actions to update calendar services when things change. Would love something that I could seamlessly integrate with capture that also is a useful note viewer.

[–] mlk@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It would be great to make it work without a backend, syncing files through the gitlab api, like Organice does

[–] darkawower@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I don't plan to implement this, however, in future versions, I will provide a client-side API that will allow developers to write their own sync provider

[–] Y_Pon@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Another questions about plans :-) :

Do you have plans to add:

  1. ? org.gpg files encryption/decryption on mobile device
  2. ? markdown syntax support for non-Emacs guys
[–] maksim77@alien.top 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Looks promising. Спасибо!

Can you tell me if there are plans for the mobile client to work without a backend? That is, just specify a folder where my org-roam files are located and work with them. I already have such a folder and I access it with Emacs running in Termux (we are talking about Android). The folder is synchronized using Syncthing. Accordingly, I don't have any special need for a backend or extensions to synchronize with it.... Only

[–] unhammer@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I use Syncthing and Organice, which works nicely together. I think I just gave Organice access to a single folder in Android.