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[–] manned_meatball@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

possibly never going to happen

[–] WeThePilgrims@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The last two for fuck sake; after that list what the hell is, or how does Fuckerburg, define 'sensitive data'?

'People' won't react to this until they are hit with a real and tangible consequence:

'sorry, based on the heath data you gave to Meta we're doubling your insurance premiums'

[–] nromdotcom 5 points 1 year ago

It doesn't matter how "Fuckerberg" defines those terms. These are listings from the Apple App Store and are defined by Apple. Sensitive info is:

Such as racial or ethnic data, sexual orientation, pregnancy or childbirth information, disability, religious or philosophical beliefs, trade union membership, political opinion, genetic information, or biometric data

[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're probably right, but why in the heck does instagram need health and fitness data? That really should set off alarm bells to any of the saps downloading that thing...

[–] manned_meatball@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's a social network. Some people do post things related to health and fitness, and it's another gold mine of private data for ad targeting, so from a business perspective it makes sense to have features that integrate Instagram with these health and fitness gadgets.

This list is a summary of the data they may collect. Using these apps don't mean you're handing all this info automatically. Most of these are actually voluntarily shared e.g. when the user connects a fitness app to it; or actively requested e.g. when they make use of location sharing in the in-app chat.

The more in-app functionality a user makes use of, the more data they'll hoard about that user.

[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for clarifying!

[–] Peruvia@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

People literally don't care about their privacy. Anything that is raised regarding tracking is classified as being paranoid and you become a weirdo.

[–] electronicoldman@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless it's blamed on a foreign country. Then it's "why aren't we nuking them?!?!"

People in America love to complain about TikTok is harvesting all sorts of data. My response is yeah that’s awful, let’s stop all the data harvesting, and they’re like no just TikTok, the CCP is the ultimate evil

[–] Syrup@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 year ago

In fairness, privacy issues have been a bit like a "frog in boiling water". Unless you pay a lot of attention to these things or are completely out of the loop, the average person won't see the issue.

At least my grandmother's vindicated now for not wanting to get on Facebook and share those sorts of things

[–] master@lem.serkozh.me 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not until there is a massive data breach that leads to very serious and obvious real world consequences

[–] arirr@social.fossware.space 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like the Equifax hack that nobody cares about anymore?

[–] master@lem.serkozh.me 7 points 1 year ago

On a similar scale, but with consequences like zeroing out savings and maxing out credit cards of several dozens of millions of people or violence for political views/sexual preferences/etc on the same scale. Basically, something that will make a large number of people learn about the importance of privacy the hard way.

[–] mustyOrange 3 points 1 year ago

I still can't believe that was just completely forgotten about by almost everyone

[–] aCosmicWave@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hope Threads is juuuust successful enough to fully kill off Twitter so that we can move one step closer to Musk fading into obscurity.

[–] Bumblefumble 1 points 1 year ago

And have the Zuck take over?

[–] Generator@lemmy.pt 8 points 1 year ago

"I have nothing to hide"
People just want to use the app, like on TikTok "China is spying you, it will be blocked" many started to looking for VPNs to unblock the app.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until there's a massive leak of credit card data from a single incident, nothing will change.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think even that is enough - people will just have their banks sort it all out. I think only stuff like identity theft as a result of a breach will make people learn IMO

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 4 points 1 year ago

Well, banks don't sort it out very fast and they definitely won't solve it fast if it happens to a large percentage of their clients.

[–] smegforbrains@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

This the dystopia we chose for ourselves.

[–] DeadGemini@waveform.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Consumerist pigs don't care about literally anything past their own consumption and comforts.

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I'm an average Joe and try to minimize my digital footprint as much as convenience allows, but keep seeing people say that this is paranoia and doesn't matter.

Never.

Just look at what happens on Reddit when Mastodon is brought up in the Threads/Twitter wars.

“Ohhhh it’s too haaaaard to use. What does it matter about a little privacy loss anyway?”

[–] MarioBarisa@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago

my dad barely understands how email works, do you think he even knows what all of these do lmao

[–] igetzerobread@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[–] cavemeat 1 points 1 year ago

Never, at this rate.

[–] Mandy 1 points 1 year ago

Imagine for a sec that we wouldnt live in a world where 99% of people are lazy complacent dickweeds happily spreading their cheeks for google and co