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What advice would you give to someone who is trying to teach themselves software development skills? I'm doing that right now, and I'm finding it easy to understand, yet difficult to implement in computer code. I want to move onto more advanced stuff, but I feel that I don't have enough experience quite yet. What skills/courses would you recommend I take? How did you get better on your coding journey? Any tips to make the process go faster? Thanks in advance!

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[–] LogicRaven@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keep practicing.

Read other people's code, for example open source project. Contributing to open source can be good practice also.

Find a mentor.

Pick a team at work that has the skills and culture+capacity to mentor you.

[–] kraegar@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Open source contribution can be really great. I started contributing to a Python project that I have used extensively and it 100% improved my coding. It also can allow for you to interact with more experienced devs (depending on the project) and allows for you to get feedback.

[–] nibblebit@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

Don't teach yourself complex software dev skills. Teach yourself complex software problems and learn how others have solved them in the past.

[–] oessessnex@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

First focus on working on projects instead of improving your skills. The concepts you learn are usually a solution to some problem. Things are easier if you first encounter the problem yourself and then learn the solution, than if you do it in reverse. It is ok to do things poorly when you are starting out.

[–] douglasg14b@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Practice practice practice, always challenge and improve on your foundational skills. Everything else gets easier. Write code and solve problems, struggle through it in whatever way works for you. There's not really a shortcut to getting more experience than to put in the work.

It's especially important to try and do things the "right way" as a learning/growth tool. It will take longer, and you'll rewrite your code multiple times, but the next time you encounter a similar problem you suddenly know exactly what to do and the constraints around the problem.

Do this often enough and you'll find yourself having a general idea of how to solve just about any problem you come across, and how to do it elegantly.

[–] navigatron 1 points 1 year ago

Struggle through it

I want to double down on this. Struggle through it, and learn to enjoy the struggle.

At its core, this field is all about solving problems. You learn and grow by tackling problems that are “too hard”, and learning / hitting your head against the wall / discovering new techniques until you defeat the problem.

Defeating a problem should feel amazing, and is something that should be celebrated. Be proud of it.

Then, the next time you’re facing a seemingly impossible challenge, think about that payoff, and keep going.

Eventually, impossible problems aren’t dissuading - they simply represent some tools or skills that you don’t have yet, and now you get to go on an adventure to discover them.

I don’t think it’s a good idea to just “learn tools”. Every tool in your toolbox should have some personal project or problem that it has already solved, so that you know how to use it. Don’t buy an oil filter wrench until you have a car that needs an oil change, if you know what I’m saying.

[–] vcmj@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Like others have said, practice is key, however I'd like to add that you should not feel too discouraged if it feels like you're making no progress. You're probably making more headroom than you realize. At least personally in programming more than anything else I have occasionally only seen results after I came back to a concept I gave up on learning.

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Do be aware of getting stuck in local minimum though. I know it probably feels like bad advice but I figured I'd give it since it helped me personally, so maybe it might help someone else.

[–] jmk1ng@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BUILD SOMETHING.

Learning concepts without the ability to apply them are essentially useless.

Get your hands dirty and build something that would be valuable to you and solve a problem for yourself.

Don't get hung up on doing it "right". Focus on making it work. Don't worry about how it'll work for a million users. Right now your focus is on making it work for one user.

As you go you'll hit walls. Research how to get past them and keep going. Again, you're going to make mistakes. DO NOT GET HUNG UP ON THIS.

Making mistakes is part of the journey. Even the best software engineers in the world rarely get things right their first try. It's part of the process.

[–] Mesa@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I think this is the best answer. You can follow tutorials and read others' code all you want, but until you have a real-world application of what you're learning, the information you're consuming might as well be lost to the cosmos.

If you want structure, there are plenty of courses on YouTube that can start you out with fundamental knowledge; but as you continue to learn, taking on your own projects increasingly becomes the most efficient way to develop as a developer.

And, of course, there is a place for reading other people's code. I just think that this "method" is popularly miscredited as the way to learn coding, rather than as a tool to fortify your skills.

[–] h_a_r_u_k_i@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

No matter what you learn, keep the foundation strong. Religiously follow the "First Principle". For example, instead of learning tons and tons of web framework, try to learn the fundamentals of the language first and how networking works.

Try to understand the concept by yourself. Verify the inert knowledge. Don't rush for the quantity. Take your time and build a strong root. Make time your friend.

[–] gnus_migrate@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

When you're at that point, it's usually a sign that you need to start applying what you learned. There are two parts of programming:

  1. The concepts, the theory which is honestly the fun part.
  2. Dealing with the little annoyances, setting up a development environment, learning APIs, wiring things together, running into problems there is no clean solution for and implementing something that works.

The second part feels unimportant, something you can always learn later, but it takes time to learn and get good at, and what you need to learn to start to effectively apply more advanced concepts. Otherwise you're learning things you won't be able to use.

[–] russmatney@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One thing i undervalued for most of my career was just reading code.

Get into the habit of digging into open source repos that catch your curiousity, and try to grok the way the project is layed out, what namespaces/files exist, what some of the core functions are, where the complexity is housed.

It’s all about getting exposure to patterns, especially if there aren’t other people to work with in your day to day.

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