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(Of course I'm going to stop, but my server has been blocked by Hetzner, would like to recover it XD)

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[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What a tricksy thieving hobbit you are! /s

You’ll be fine. Stop seeding the thing they don’t like and increase your security—VPN, seedbox, private trackers, etc. If anybody asks, you had an asshole neighbor kid who guessed your WiFi password.

Edit: just realized that you were using a server with Hetzner—Germany is one of the worst places for torrenting. Get a server in a friendlier country for that.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 1 year ago

seed and torrent the letter

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago

Tamedia are the main reason there. They are lobbying strong.

[–] Anduin1357@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

If you still want to seed that exact torrent, at least wipe the trackers. They are 100% connected to the trackers in that torrent to pull IP addresses so they can do this shit.

Next time, use an IP filter list to pre-block these people.

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[–] lud@lemm.ee 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just do what they asked you to do. Remove the torrents, it's not like they are threatening legal action. They are actually asking pretty nicely.

In the future, use a VPN.

[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can't tell if you still have the files or not.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I am not saying remove the files, just the torrent (as in stop seeding).

[–] iso@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 year ago

Given that it's Hetzner, there's not much you can do besides telling them "oops sorry didn't know this was illegal" and proceed using a VPN on your seedbox, go private tracker or just use a different hoster. Hetzner isn't a big fan of torrenting since they have the (german) feds in their neck.

[–] slushiedrinker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Say nothing. Stop sharing or seeding. But, above all, say nothing. You’re getting phished. Just comply and stop seeding the shit. Keep quiet. If you reply you’ll just have problems that cost money.

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

This. Make the bastards chase you.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 year ago

Don't reply at all unless you talk to a lawyer. Seriously, no good can come from it. Quietly disable/delete whatever they list, and never mention it again.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

Never use a service that requires you to share the files you downloaded to pirate, not without a VPN. As you've might have noticed, their complaint is for distribution, not downloading. That's where they get you.

[–] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago

Don't respond.

[–] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ignore it. Anything you say will be used to build their case. I would just set up another server.

[–] quackers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no case. this is just TOS violation with a hosting company.

[–] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not yet, but their could be in the future. Best to ignore it and move on. Even if it is extremely unlikely to be prosecuted for this stuff, it has happened, so why risk it.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 19 points 1 year ago

Very, very, very brave you are to torrent on Hetzner lol

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no need to answer.

Stop whatever it was they detected. Don't do that any more.

[–] Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

Stop seeding the torrents they mention. Use a VPN, verify it is bound to your torrent client.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, The company named "Company".

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago

That's just how legalese is written. It's like variables in programming they tell you what the thing is and then they tell you what they're going to call it for the rest of the document.

I guess it originally saved them hand writing "B&H Film, Video and Television Media Production LLC" every time. Of course these days you could just do a fine and a replace, so I'm not sure why they don't, but it's just become standard lawyer at this point.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

"Dear Sir/Madam

NUTS!

Sincerely,"

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 4 points 1 year ago

The first thing I would do is anything that doesn't involve asking for legal advice on reddit/Lemmy.

If you a concerned about this: Ask a lawyer for advice.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think Hetzner wants you to tell them you've removed it. They did as requested and took down the VPS and disabled it. It's now in your hands.

I myself wouldn't ignore such a letter. It's now just asking you politely. If you continue they need to make the choice if it's worth pursuing you. I don't have any good insight if and under what circumstances they do. I would comply, remove said content and probably not reply to them. It's unlikely to make it better for you if you talk to people targeting you. And I wouldn't keep the logs around as they requested. Accidents happen, files get deleted, nobody is perfect.

But you obviously need to talk to Hetzner.

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hetzner Online seems to be their company name. The one the letter is sent to.

[–] quackers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

hetzner is a large hosting company in germany.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah. Hetzner is the hosting company. They are the owner of the IP range and thus get the letters. They forward it to their customers, in this case OP. And the letter seems to be from one of those shady companies that scan the torrent swarms for Intellectual Property of their customers and then write letters to the abuse contacts of the IP addresses of the offenders. I don't know where OP lives, but Hetzner is big in Germany, so it's probably german law we're talking about. And we're not very liberal with copyright infringement, should that escalate to that point.

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 year ago

Good to know. Thanks.

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 year ago
[–] ExLisper@linux.community 3 points 1 year ago

There was a post here not long time ago about faking your own death and starting new life in another country. Read it. Apply it.

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've found Usenet backbone+indexer to be the same price as VPN while being significantly faster to download, no seeding required.

It allows more complicated setups like radarr+sonarr which download episodes as they come out, at around your internet speed.

[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Usenet is the way

[–] supervent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you could try to use i2pd or i2p for bittorrent with BiblgyBT or qbittorrent 4.6RC and above, there is a few decent public trackers on i2p.

[–] lispi314@mastodon.top 2 points 1 year ago

@supervent @nn4x This goodness, absolutely this.

Why is anyone still using the #clearnet for this?

#I2P is absolutely one of the better options.

[–] jumbodumbo@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago

Print it out, wipe your butt with it, scan it, send it back

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

It was an email or a registered letter?

If it was an email, you never received it. Probably it got rejected by the spam filter as it looked like phishing.

But imho it wasn't a good idea to use a commercial server provider with KYC policies for seeding torrents. It was better to use one of those seedboxes for this

[–] Froyn@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Debrid service

[–] Trebach@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This sounds like a question for an IP lawyer, not an internet forum.

[–] ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi 9 points 1 year ago

That'd be like deploying a satellite to find your own ass...

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Useful as a dead frog

[–] notthebees@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd move hosts. Frantech will ignore dmca requests if you get a Luxembourg slot. Or move to feralhosting. They're based in the Netherlands.