Outside of the SCC I have found that many try to "hold the mods accountable" and few know how to do that when a power dynamic is involved, let alone the emotion they bring to that intent. This is noble at face value but the damage from failed attempts is great. There is more of an equal footing within the SCC that allows for calmer and more rational talks for this purpose.

We have many discussions ahead of us, most of which cannot be resolved through walls of text like this. The mods have shown me that they are genuine in their love for the sub but, over time and with enough corrosive intent from trolls and bad actors, that love can be twisted into something it should not resemble. There must be voices to counteract this over time.

It is my belief that many things need to change for our overall community to return to a peaceful and sustainable path and that the road to get those changes is arduous, tedious, and well worth it. We currently have the ability to resolve core differences with relatively little drama. From there we can talk about what we need to see from each other in order to come around on key topics.

We can discuss what information we need to convince outsiders to become insiders to this saga, and how to obtain that critical information. It is my belief we must slowly and carefully expand and support each other in the projects we undertake. We must decentralize while remaining connected both here and in our friend lists.

Nobody is entirely opposed, and few are even partially opposed, to this overall thought process. When approached with reason and humanity everyone is receptive.

lol lmao

The shitheads running that sub won't ever give up power, and even if they did, what happens to all the apes who were banned?

They've been silencing people for nearly 3 years now. That's a lot of people who would need to be unbanned.

Personally, I don't buy the "stand alone complex" crap he's pushing. I resent the leaders of this movement and I will make a point to never have anything to do with them ever again. In the future, anything they stand for I will stand against.

The only reason we're on the same side right now is because I'm invested in the MOASS and I want to get paid.

There is no possibility for us to ever be friends. That bridge was burned when the SS mods chose to act like assholes and silence their supposed "movement" for 3 years straight. They aren't leading this movement, they have just taken it hostage.

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[–] regolith@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 14 points 1 year ago

The only reason we’re on the same side right now is because I’m invested in the MOASS

My own personal and humble opinion is that the mods running SS are not actually DRS'ed but rather grifting the MOASS through some shorter term strategy.

[–] MozooZ@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fwiw, the OP of that post is, from my experience, very interested in seeing this community and WhyDRS.org and DRSGME.org succeed. As well, they have legitimate issue with Superstonk decay, though are level-headed and diplomatic.

[–] jackofspades123@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 11 points 1 year ago

I'd like to believe SS can get better and improve. I hope the SCC does that, but only time will tell.

Personally, I think there are some big issues that need to be addressed as resolved to splinter some of the groups.

[–] iofhua@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Caeser2021 5 hr. ago Your point about the burnout and mods, there was never ever any interaction on mod selection, in fact if my memory serves me, there were instances where it was brought up by the community how the Mod team had grown and how people were selected for it.

So with all due respect, the community hasn't asked the mods to do anything, because the community had no knowledge or input on their selection.

jackofspades123 3 hr. ago I encourage you to read the open transparency threads in the discord. You might find them interesting and eye opening.

^ THAT Why should members of a subreddit have to sign up to a discord in order to be involved in the selection of a mod on their subreddit? This is like the Vogons in Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy. "How could you not know that your planet was going to be bulldozed? The relevant form was hung in the Intergalactic Bureau of Space Administration's office for the past two years!"

The people running the place have to work for the federal government. Only the feds could set up this level of compartmentalization.

[–] vagrantprodigy@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 6 points 1 year ago

Not to mention that the discord is a far bigger echo chamber that is much more tightly moderated than the subreddit. You can't post any dissenting opinions there without being mobbed.

[–] jackofspades123@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 3 points 1 year ago

I get the pushback on it is wrong to sign up yet again for another place. The only reason I suggested it is so you can read the logs and decide for yourself how good or how bad they are. I didn't want to share my perspective on how I think they are

[–] DDoS@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My biggest question is: do we even need SuperSus, r/GME, or even Lemmy? Does the future of those online communities impact the stock, MOASS or the company, at all? Would people sell without those hubs? Do they still hold because they read the DD or do they do it because of the hype?

If the community turns out to be in any way important, then I do very much care about them. If they will not have any effect on MOASS, I couldn't care less.

[–] Chives@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It may be that if all social hubs disappeared tomorrow (even decentralized ones) that people would continue to buy and hold in an effort to force closure and discovery of the short positions. I do believe we have already passed that event horizon.

Without a social hub to develop and test various theses, I don't think we would have reached that point.

I also believe there's no way to know what we do not yet know - and so the ability for these social hubs to continue expanding and developing our knowledge is very important.

[–] jersan@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The community is undeniably important. The community of household investors have directly registered ~ 25% of the entire company. Whatever happens in the near or long term future, this 25% will have a major impact on the outcome. And the reason why 25% of the company is directly registered is because of places like superstonk and elsewhere where the important discovery of information has happened. If it wasn't superstonk, it would have been some different place.

Things have evolved a lot over the last 2 years, things will always be in a state of change. Superstonk used to be great, these days not so much.

Lemmy, I think also, is incredibly important. Sure, there aren't nearly as many active users here as in those other places but that doesn't diminish the importance of this place. Even if Lemmy never grows substantially (personally I believe in due time it will grow substantially), the very fact that this community exists is creating competition for the reddit incumbents. For example superstonk mods are so threatened by this Lemmy instance or Lemmy in general that they have banned the word "Lemmy" from being mentioned or discussed at all, with a very flimsy justification for doing so. This to me speaks to the value of this place. They know that it exists, it stands as an alternative community location that realistically is capable of serving the same needs that reddit serves, and they're so bothered by it that they censor it because they don't want anyone coming here. They want everyone under their authority, not some other authority.

I think that the fediverse is analogous to strong cryptocurrencies like bitcoin and ethereum. Bitcoin and ethereum are both imperfect, there are many valid criticisms that can be made against them, but despite these valid flaws, what they are are strong, decentralized alternatives that can serve similar functions as existing systems, without the need for some centralized authority to act as the final decision maker. Yes, imperfect, but also a valid alternative that serves as competition for the incumbent system.

Now, the incumbent systems must constantly compete, must constantly adapt and improve, in order to be the legitimately superior option. Every day that goes on, the incumbent systems must be superior, because if they are not, then people will continue to embrace the alternatives and decide that the alternatives are actually better.

So even if Lemmy is small, it is not insignificant. It is now an existing viable alternative to Reddit, and Reddit surely knows about it. Reddit must therefore act appropriately so as to not lose their status as incumbent. Lemmy as it exists therefore in my opinion is already causing Reddit to be better, because Reddit knows that if they are not better people will leave Reddit. If Reddit is too heavy handed, if Reddit bans entire subreddits for no good reason, this will ultimately create a scenario in the long run that will probably hurt Reddit, and therefore they must be careful in abusing their incumbent authority. If there was no viable alternative competitor such as Lemmy, then Reddit could behave in whatever way they want without concern.

[–] AnimorphFan1996@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 8 points 1 year ago

Lemmy as it exists therefore in my opinion is already causing Reddit to be better, because Reddit knows that if they are not better people will leave Reddit.

In my opinion, the r/superstonk Community Council exists precisely because of competitive pressure from alternatives like our Lemmy server.

[–] regolith@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 6 points 1 year ago

It feels like we as a community have learned all of the shenanigans that can and have been pulled. Some of the subreddits have enabled that, either intentionally or just inevitably as a lot of garbage DD had to pass through first.

While there can be additional stunts that are pulled, I feel fine just sitting and waiting. But I have only felt that way since DRSing 99%.

Point being, it wouldn't surprise me if everyone that is heavily DRS'ed just stops paying attention to the online chatter.

[–] TheWiseAlaundo@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've gone pretty zen, checking in on Superstonk only occasionally. GameStop is crazy undervalued at current prices, even without the prospect of MOASS, so i continue to hold. I'm actually kinda happy seeing this post show up in my feed, 'cause Lemmy has entirely replaced Reddit for me.

Also, ignore the following, I'm typing this because I couldn't do the same on Reddit: AMC, WallStreetBets sucks balls, u/Spez doesn't care about Reddit people, Use Lemmy

[–] Deft@diyrpg.org 5 points 1 year ago

The only thing that keeps me zen and apathetic to anything said is DFV did not sell at the peak. He discovered this shit and didn't sell.