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Hello just making a poll, which one do you prefer? personally I prefer x265 but since the rarbg falldown i've seen that almost all 1080p rips are in x264, what do you think about that, and do you recommend any place to find more x265 content beside those in the megathread?
Note that H.264 and H.265 are the video compression standards and x264 and x265 are FOSS video encoding libraries developed by VideoLAN.
x265 no contest, all day every day. Then again we should probably be migrating to AV1 ASAP
H265 is objectively superior in just about every way UNLESS you're trying to play it on hardware that doesn't support it. The only reason to use H264 is for broad compatibility.
amen. I just discovered AV1 so that seems cool as far as space saving goes
AV1 we should have more hardware acceleration in the future. AVIF is also promising.
For now its x265. Though later on itll be av1.
If it's patent-encumbered, it doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned.
Because of this post, I reencode a BD rip I made using handbrake to see how small the output file would be. I used the 4k av1 fast profile, but changed the audio tract to passthrough. Holy crap, 44gb down to 1.5gb. what black magic is this?
AV1 is very efficient (around twice as good as h264), but a filesize that low was almost definitely because the default encoding settings were more conservative than the ones used to encode the blu-ray. The perceptual quality of that 1.5gb file will be noticeably lower than the 44gb one
AV1 is the shit. Still doesn't have broad support on consumer devices yet, but it will come.
A lot of comments suggesting AV1 has better compatibility than h265. In my experience the opposite is true. H265 is supported by all of my devices including Plex on my smart TV without transcoding, whereas AV1 makes everything have a fit trying to play it. Am I doing something wrong?
AV1 seems like a more open successor to HEVC/x265 and since it's quite new compared to that only new devices are just starting to support it through hardware decoding/encoding
For now, H.265, but I really hope AV1 support improves in the near future.
Search for the user Infinity on TorrentGalaxy
They are re-uploading a lot of RARBG 1080p x265 releases but have are also releasing new movies / tv shows under their own tag with very similar quality and file sizes.
For some unknown reason Infinity strips off the subtitles from the releases. I like a good subtitle track with my release...
On his own releases he's started embedding the subtitles which is nice.. but yes i admit a lot of his rarbg uploads are missing the subs... I generally remux the rarbg ones with the english sub track so it's annoying when they aren't there.. I've had good luck grabbing them from subscene though.
Since having a device that can natively watch x265 I only get that format now. I’m not sure of the quality is better vs x264 but for TV shows the disk space reduction makes up for any quality loss. Movies might be different and it depends on the film but I’m still only getting 1080p rips so again maybe the quality is that important compared to 4K?
4K x264 rips (the few that are out there) are hilariously big compared to the same quality 4K x265 rips
I am 100% in on 265, I've gotten my Plex users to upgrade to newer devices or they can have transcoded video.
I would love to migrate to AV1 in a few years, but that's a ways out.
AV1 when available for everything other than 3d content which is ideally x265.
Honestly it blows my mind that x264 is still as popular as it is.
x264 is still popular because lots of active devices (mainly TVs and smartphones) still don't have native support for x265.
Strange, confusing asymmetry in your title.
10 bit HEVC allows for some crazy good compression ratio. I love it. Put it into an mkv with chapters and externalized series op and ed I can remove and ignore - perfect.
8 bit AVC mp4 for compatibility - if that's the goal.
For acquisition - I'll take what I can get.
I wish 1080p h265 web-dls were more common. No lossy encoding and multiple streaming services have 1080p h265 available. But I have only seen like a couple release groups do it and most torrent sites don't have them
HEVC Matroska forever ♥
I prefer av1 to h265. h264 can play on anything, and while its debatable whether av1 is better than h265, av1 is supported in all browsers and gaining hardware support rapidly.
i have always wondered the difference between the two encodings (beyond the obvious filesize). thanks!
i am also still lamenting the shutdown of RARBG. :(
Both allow for various degrees of parametrization between compression rate, quality, and performance. HEVC/H.265/x265 is just better at it - it allows for better compression at the same quality. Same for 10 bit. Same for AV1.
If you want maximum compatibility to players/playback you take 8 bit AVC/H.264/x264.
I prefer HEVC, because my media server can transcode it quite easily and it takes way less space than h.264
Maybe something isn’t right in my setup but I see a noticeable difference in quality between the two. If I have two different files of one movie, one H265 and one H264, I find the H264 picture looks better most of the time
That's not really a measure of the codec, but rather a measure of the encoder. A lot of x265 encoders are awful. They go with x265 for the smaller file sizes and over-compress it, similar to the old YIFY. Groups that use x264 already aren't as concerned with file size (if they were, they'd use x265), and choose settings that optimize for quality.
Ah yes, you see these are number terms that indicate how videos are encoded. I absolutely understand how to feel with this post and are worthy of participating in the smart discussion in the comments.
imposter syndrome aside, left is a nice grid, right is a really really bad attempt at drawing a golden ratio. Sure left is better to maintain average quality. Why are people talking about converting to one and then the other? Why is the golden ratio one not symmetric!
x265 because I like the file size and am satisfied with the quality.
I just finished moving all my media to x265 and saved 7TB in the process. Quality looks plenty good to me but I always start from a remux if I can. Totally Worth it for the extra space.
My opinion is based on Rarbg, that was the only time I paid attention. but x265 for sure.
I prefer AV1. The improvement of H.265 over H.264 is not uniform. It takes a lot of effort to get consistent results across content and content types.
My old ass computers sadly can't handle h265 well so I tend to stick to h264. Moreover, my beamer cannot handle 4K or HDR so that makes more sense overall
If the original encoding is 265. Then 265
If its a high quality 264 encoding, then I'll transcode to 265
Otherwise I stick to 264