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I've lost everything and I don't know how to get it back. How can I repair my system all I have is a usb with slax linux. I am freaking out because I had a lot of projects on their that I hadn't pushed to github as well as my configs and rice. Is there any way to repair my system? Can I get a shell from systemd?

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[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boot to a liveUSB of the distro of your choice, create a chroot to your install, and then run a Pacman update from there.

Googling “Arch rescue chroot” should point you in the right direction. Good luck!

[–] 257m@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Will this work from slax linux? I am sorry if I seem like I can't fix the issue myself seeing as you have given the resources for me to do so but what would be the exact steps to do that?

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I’ve never used Slax but it should, boot the liveUSB and enter terminal.

The general process is:

  • Boot to live Slax
  • Mount your install
  • Mount /proc, /sys, /dev
  • Enter the chroot
  • Check if networking is working
  • Attempt to run commands in your chroot
  • Exit the chroot
  • Unmount everything
  • Boot back to your install

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Chroot

[–] bbbhltz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been here before, but didn't bother asking for help. Just used a liveusb to grab what I needed and reinstalled. I need to learn how to chroot ...

[–] loops 1 points 1 year ago

Same, though I did try to chroot. Totally failed though. Luckily I had backups, which I learned never backed up properly.

The lessons I learned were to never trust a GUI and always make sure your backups are viable. I still have a copy of a duplicity backup form ~2020 that I hope one day to recover, if anythings in it.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To add to the other responses, after you recovered your stuff you could probably like moving to an immutable OS if you risk having power issues often, the transactions won't be applied until everything is done so if anything happens during a transaction you'll just remain at your last usable state

[–] Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had the same thought, but didn't want to sound insensitive.

Saying "Your fault, using Arch for something important is a bad idea, you should have made a backup before", while he fears all his important data is gone, would have been rude and very unhelpful.

But immutable distros solve these issues, yes. Since I switched to Silverblue I've never been more relaxed than ever. If something goes bad, I just select the old state and everything works, and updates never get applied incompletely like here.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry if I sounded insensitive, it wasn't my intention, just thought that since many others had already given a solution to the data and even OS recovery I could chip in to add something that they might find useful, if they don't mind switching away from Arch.
I hope mine would be a reassuring suggestion more than anything

[–] Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You didn't! :) You couldn't have said it better, especially in your answer here!

As I said, I had the same thought as you with immutable distros like SB or Nix.

I just didn't have much to add as an additional comment besides "Kids, this why you should always backup and maybe use an immutable distro if you can".


As someone who values robustness and comfort, I wouldn't touch something arch-based even with a broom-pole.

If I wanted something that's a rolling release, I would use Tumbleweed or it's immutable variant.

For me at least, the only pro in Arch is that you can configure everything exactly to your imagination, if I know exactly what I'm doing. And EndeavorOS is pretty much a pre-configured Arch that removes the only USP of it, the DIY-element.

I don't see myself as competent enough to maintain my arch install, but I can access the AUR with distrobox on every other distro, like Silverblue, too, so I don't care. The big software repository isn't an argument for me in 2023 anymore. With distrobox my arch stuff is isolated and if something breaks, I can just forget my two installed apps and reinstall this container in 2 minutes.

It's just an unimaginable peace of mind for me to know that if I shut down my PC today it will work perfectly tomorrow too. I'm just sick of reinstalling or fixing shit for hours every weekend. I'm too tired for that and have other responsibilities.


But yeah. My thoughts were exactly the same as yours and I didn't have much more to add besides saying "Hey, do xy that this won't happen anymore in the future" without sounding like Captain Hindsight from South Park. Context

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 1 points 1 year ago

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Btw that clip was hilarious, I hope I don't come off like that often lol

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Note that this isn't about immutability but atomicity. Current immutable usually have that feature aswell but you don't need immutability to achieve it.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah you're right, however searching "linux distro with atomic updates" doesn't seem to turn up much, as you say, in most cases the two features happen to come together and the distros that have them are mostly known for the former

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is nothing worth of freaking out in your situation. Your files shouldn't have been impacted at all.

Boot from LiveUSB and reinstall the packages you were updating, maybe reinstall grub too.

There are tons of guides for this in the Internet, like this one: https://www.jeremymorgan.com/tutorials/linux/how-to-reinstall-boot-loader-arch-linux/

Edit: since you probably use systemd-boot, as I can see from your post, obviously the grub part of my comment shouldn't be done. Replace those parts with systemd-boot reinstallation. Even better if pacman will update it, because there's probably some hook already to do things manually and you won't have to touch systemd-boot at all

[–] 257m@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you all for offering advice. I did eventually get it working and repaired all the packages.

[–] Resolved3874@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't help but I just did this myself. Was a fairly fresh install so I didn't lose anything other than have to reconfigure some stuff and install some things.

Buuuuut

What happened dto me was something crashed during the update and my computer went to a black screen. So I just left it for a bit to hopefully finish even without the display. Turned the computer off and my nvme was just gone. Ended up having to get a new one.

[–] 257m@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did systemd or grub not even show up?

[–] Resolved3874@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

Nope. I think the drive just died at a bad time honestly. I've had issues with it in the passed and the computer itself came from an e-scrap pile because the water pump for the CPU cooler was dead. Has worked great since swapping that out until the nvme died. Even after installing the new nvme and reinstalling EOS I couldnt see the old nvme.