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[–] belated_frog_pants 71 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Dreadrat@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As soon as adblock stops working the nerds will move.

Then after a while the non nerds will hear about it from the nerds...then suddenly everyone needs to support Firefox again..

[–] intrepid@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Anyone still using chrome doesn't deserve the nerd tag. How many neurons does it take to understand the consequences of using it? 3?

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[–] beteljuice@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

That's called the halo effect, where a small but influential group of people make something popular.

[–] millionsofplayers@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn’t there a version of ublock that works with manifest v3

[–] paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Yes! It's called uBlock Origin Lite. It doesn't have element filtering, but it works well if you just want a super lightweight adblocker.

Chrome

Firefox

[–] PuppyOSAndCoffee@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I liked chrome because it was quick and had useful features. Past tense. C-ya.

[–] Jaximus@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox has been as fast as chrome on most websites for some years now. Chrome was quick a decade ago, not anymore...

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah for real! They were really really quick and light on RAM in the super early days. But that was due to not having much there compared to Firefox and Opera, or even IE and Safari. Even the original Edge browser was kind of quick due to it just not having everything. All of them lose that little advantage after being around long enough to have the code base be added to along with trying to copy features from popular extensions or trying to add random things to stand out. Even when Firefox got heavy with RAM, I still stuck with it due to extensions factually being able to do more that I wanted. But then they solved the RAM issues dramatically with that Quantum refresh, though it did mean many extensions got nurfed by virtue of not having as much access to the OS level stuff (which is probibly a good thing with regards to security and privacy). Even then they still have better access to being able to really block ads and other privacy related things. And that is because they aren't an ad company that wants to dictate how you are allowed to use the internet.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but this is Google, and they control Chrome, and this probably still won't make people switch to Firefox

Yeah. People just simply will not do things that are in their best interest. This is literally the biggest issue that was had with IE. Inertia.

[–] Spacemanspliff@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

All of my web interaction at this point happens through my Android phone, Google has me by the balls anyway.

[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There is Firefox for Android. You're still on Android, but you can have some control left.

[–] qupada@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately Firefox doesn't have a replacement for the "Android System WebView" component, so any app that embeds a browser component (and oh boy is that a lot of them) will still be using Chrome.

There's a relevant ticket here: https://github.com/mozilla/geckoview/issues/167

It should be possible to have a shim that allows Mozilla's "GeckoView" component to implement the API, but - per that ticket, at least - most Android ROMs won't allow alternatives to the Google one.

The Firefox browser is genuinely great, but it's so far from possible to replace Chrome with it everywhere a browser is used.

[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm dumb but I have had no issues using Firefox on android.

[–] Cube6392 4 points 1 year ago

Other poster was saying apps that are built around web content use Chrome's webviewer component, and that tons of apps these days are react native, or whatever that Apache foundation tool is for deploying web apps as native apps.

[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

A lot of those apps allow you to open links in an external browser instead, but yes, that is a problem

[–] codapine@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

You can't uninstall Chrome most likely, but maybe your stock/rom will allow you to "disable" it.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Also Firefox Focus, which forgets your browsing history when you close it or hit the trashcan button.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Fennec is the Android version of Firefox.

In the future it will be Fenix

[–] Cube6392 13 points 1 year ago

Privacy and digital rights are not a binary "use strange hard to use tools or give everything to google." There are things you can do to improve your ability to own your own data. Giving up immediately is letting perfect be the enemy of good. Running Firefox on your google phone will still win you back something

[–] reflex@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Google has me by the balls anyway.

GrapheneOS? Are you on a Pixel?

[–] beteljuice@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Lineageos+microg is a useable de-googled android. I'm using it now without any google services.

[–] Skimmer@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this the part where I act surprised?

[–] cassetti@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I avoided chrome for a long time. Finally I made the switch because FF was getting too slow on old computers back in the day. Lasted for maybe five or six years before I started getting some bad vibes. Why am I letting google run the web browsing software I'm using? This can't/won't be good in the future.

At least five years ago I made the switch back to Firefox, and haven't looked back. I love having adblocking that works (I use a router level ad block and ublock origin just in case to ensure I block almost every ad on the internet lol).

I'm honestly surprised it took people this long to decide to move away from Chrome.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

Firefox really became awesome after the quantum update. It really is the best browser to date imo.

[–] azron@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Librewolf!!!!!

[–] mwalimu@baraza.africa 9 points 1 year ago

The Federated Learning of Cohorts and now the Topics API are part of a plan to pitch an "alternative" tracking platform, and Google argues that there has to be a tracking alternative—you can't just not be spied on.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Unlike the glitzy front-page Google blog post that the redesign got, the big ad platform launch announcement is tucked away on the privacysandbox.com page.

The blog post says the ad platform is hitting "general availability" today, meaning it has rolled out to most Chrome users.

This has been a long time coming, with the APIs rolling out about a month ago and a million incremental steps in the beta and dev builds, but now the deed is finally done.

Users should see a pop-up when they start up Chrome soon, informing them that an "ad privacy" feature has been rolled out to them and enabled.

That's actually what started this whole process: Apple dealt a giant blow to Google's core revenue stream when it blocked third-party cookies in Safari in 2020.

Google says it will block third-party cookies in the second half of 2024—presumably after it makes sure the "Privacy Sandbox" will allow it to keep its profits up.


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[–] ulkesh 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aww good for Google. Meanwhile I’ll keep using a FOSS browser that doesn’t screw its users with every new feature.

[–] smpl@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

..and which one would that be?

[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Well what do you know, Firefox is open source

[–] codapine@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

And then hoodwink people into upgrading with the promise of Material You themes 🙄

I hope Chromium-based Vivaldi is still okay. I'm pretty invested in some of its features (though I have to admit it is getting more bloaty).

[–] TravisLF@artemis.camp 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Any news on when this hits chromium?

[–] aeternum@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

probably already has. They put things into chromium first, then move them to chrome usually.

[–] excel@lemmy.megumin.org 1 points 1 year ago

Vivaldi will never have it

[–] pedroapero@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Duplicate (on the same community 2 hours before)

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry about that. Lemmy usually warns me if a link has been posted already, but it didn't this time.