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[–] Firipu@startrek.website 32 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Man, every time I see videos like that, my heart breaks. Those are actual human beings with families, loved ones, hopes and dreams... (I know Russia does much worse things to the other side, but that doesn't change the feeling. Most conscripts are just brainwashed cannon fodder :()

Fuck war so much...

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

If it helps: their deaths were just.

[–] rogerhaase@mastodon.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Firipu @Wilshire No. There is internet access in Russia. Every russian knows what's going on.
No pity for the orcs. They come to murder.

[–] Firipu@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's a very simple way of putting things imo :)

The west also has internet access. Some people still end up hateful/believing in flat earth/conspiracy theories.

That doesn't mean they're bad people, just very misguided.

[–] SomeGuyNamedPaul 10 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately their misguidance is putting them in a position where they're there to kill Ukranians, and asking nicely didn't get them to not be there.

[–] rogerhaase@mastodon.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Firipu It is always strange that there are people who pity the perpetrator and not the victim.

The war on Ukraine is not a natural disaster. It is made by russians. Go Figure!

[–] Firipu@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

Oh, I feel equally bad, or even worse when I see what happens to Ukrainians. My heart bleeds for what they're going through.

That doesn't mean I can't feel empathy for individual people that get killed in the blink of an eye...

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[–] zane@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would they not pull the trigger all the same if the situations were reversed?

[–] Firipu@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah, absolutely. And I'd feel horrible for the human being on the other side of the scope... I'm talking about the actual human being with a life being killed. Not the politics behind it.

That doesn't mean I'm justifying the atrocities Russia commits or even remotely support their unprovoked attack. Russia is the bad guy, no discussion. But they're still humans and I can still feel bad for the needless loss of human life.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

what can i say except quote general Sherman:

War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out.

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[–] BrokenToY@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Ugly, justified, but you need respect the professionalism.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago