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With so much note taking apps nowadays, I can't understand why does anyone still write notes with pen and paper. You need to bring the notepad, book or that paper to retrieve that information, and most of the time you don't have it in hand. While my phone almost always reachable and you carry when you go out. For those still like to do handwriting, there's many app does that and they can even convert it to text notes.

So, if you still write notes with pen and paper, why?

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[–] amio@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I use sticky notes at home, and write by hand in an actual notebook when hashing things out. I also take notes in a text editor, though.

[–] sag@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago
[–] autumn@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sometimes i need to hand info to someone, or paper is just nearby, or i need to draw a diagram.

I do have an ipad, but if you are brainstorming with other people, they don't always know how to use it/touch the wrong thing.

All other notes are digital, because i am bad at keeping track of pieces of paper.

[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

For work I used to have an agenda with notes but over time I realized it's impossible to actually keep organized and have the most important things be the most easy to find. I moved to onenote and never looked back.

For personal notes I use a tablet with pen because it's fun to write by hand without wasting trees and it still being digital it's easier to organize and move information around.

[–] s_s@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

I do not trust things in my phone to stay private.

[–] redxef@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, mostly university and work though. I don't have a tablet and the drawing tablet is at home most of the time. Pen and paper just gives more flexibility than text. Though I instantly scan them and upload them to my paperless instance.

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Nah, tablet and stylus

[–] gabe@literature.cafe 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love fountain pens so much and journaling with them. Extremely therapeutic.

[–] triclops6@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Today's my first Lemmy spotting of a fellow fp user! I don't feel like many of us made the hop from Reddit, welcome!

[–] gabe@literature.cafe 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Make sure to check out the fountain pens community on wayfarershaven! :)

[–] triclops6@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Done! They have pen swap too!

[–] u202307011927@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Aesthetics mostly, but also it feels more tangible when expressing myself physically, not digitally. Like, I can better recognize what I wrote, because there were more senses involved in writing than there are with typing

[–] techwizrd@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I enjoy writing with fountain pens, and I've got to justify the numerous pens and inks I have. I also find it helps me with recall and focus. So I take notes by hand most of the time.

[–] Caspase8@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a uni student I do both. I generally type notes during lectures and live meetings, and handwrite notes for prerecorded videos and other general study.

I still handwrite because my exams are going to be handwritten and I don't want to lose my ability to handwrite fast lol.

You can also doodle/draw diagrams when you handwrite. It's harder to do that on a phone/computer.

I still use pen and paper because it just feels better than handwriting on a screen.

[–] sgharms@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here’s the biggest reason: we are evolved from savannah primates for whom the ability to make eye contact and hold it was a signal of “you can trust me, I’m not about to bite you.” Paper and pen don’t signal “I have decided to break this evolutionary/social contract” in the same way a phone or open laptop does.

I help mentor a lot of young people in early career and their generation with a phone is an excuse for an x-er/boomer interviewer to punt them waiting to happen. It’s career and comp limiting, right or no.

Also if one finds a taken note is missing something, contact the original party. A conversation that begins with: “you got me thinking about this more deeply and I think I may have missed something…” is the key to mentorship, advocacy, and growth.

In short from a transcoding of bits perspective, other media may be better. But for those they acknowledge human constraint and opportunity a nice notebook and (a cheap shill from me) a Lamy Safari medium nib fountain pen will do you quite well.

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[–] PersonalDevKit@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I use my phone for quick notes on the go, or creating lists of information I want to be able to re order and edit.

I use pen and paper mainly for brain dumps. Getting a stream of thoughts out of my head and on to paper. I find trying to use a phone for this will lead to some distraction and the thought will go before I capture all of the info.

I also use pen and paper when studying a topic, especially for a test, I find the simple of act of writing the information down is enough to cement it in my brain, even if I never go back and read those notes.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

If I'm ever using my desktop at home, yes. I always have extra paper I can use as note paper for if I ever need to write something down, so I make use of it. I am never not around a mechanical pencil nor pen either, so that also helps.

[–] DagingAnalog@lemmy.my.id 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, for recipe.

[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I agree with a lot of peoples take about the convenience of paper notes with the ability to handle them, physically share them and so forth. But I still never use physical notes any more. And 100% of the reason is that I'm always carrying my phone, but I never carry a pen and notebook. My need to take notes is spontaneous and unpredictible, so paper and a pen is never within an arms reach when I need to take a note.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

I use paper for all my "at the moment notes" it's just easier because actually unlocking my phone and opening a note app then starting a note takes too long and a lot of the time I need to draw a diagram or something to go along with it. Anything important gets transferred into my onenote from the paper later on. I would like to find a good app to go completely digital but so far nothing I've found meets that need as well as just carrying a notebook around.

[–] Jerrimu2@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

I hand write to-do list because I can remember , my phone is a distraction machine.

[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

No.

Surprised no one here answered with just a "no". I can't remember the last time I even held a pen for signing something, even my last job contract and rental agreement etc were all digital.

AMA, all you pen and pencil people.

[–] superseven@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Somehow I notice how I think more 'structured' and focused about the things I write down by hand. Especially useful when I try to break down tasks into smaller bits or try to plan anything through step by step

[–] indigojasper@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I write with pen and paper because its faster for me and it's much more tactile.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just on phone. They're not important notes though. Just random stuff. I don't even remember the context for 80% of that.

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[–] Nemo@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Because writing it helps me remember. I'm never going to look at those notes again, because I'll remember, because the act of writing helps me remember.

[–] hitagi@ani.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yes! Pen and paper is much more flexible compared to writing-software. It's easy to draw around or write on the margins when needed. I've tried writing with a stylus but I find it harder to use. I usually use this for class and if I have to jot down something quickly.

The only thing I don't put on paper is my todo list. Software manages that so much better than pen and paper. I also don't print out reading material anymore as it gets expensive and very bulky. I use xournalpp for annotation instead.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Writing with a notepad is better for those who need to be freeform, want the ease of opening it up, and/or have privacy concerns (a phone of any security can be hacked, but a notepad can’t if you write in a code only you can understand, which can’t be done on a phone without an unlimited resource of special characters). As for reachability, it’s what you make of it.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Speak for yourself.

Pros of pen and paper: always in my pocket, very fast to open up and read and write notes. Never runs out of battery. Readable even in brightest sunlight.

Cons of phone: must remember to take it with you or search your apartment to find where you place it and hope you have remembered to charge it during past couple of days. Additionally you have to unlock it and flick through the menus to find the note app. Additionally additionally you have to remember to take a charger where ever you go.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cons of phone: must remember to take it with you or search your apartment to find where you place it and hope you have remembered to charge it during past couple of days.

I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who leaves the phone at home, or forgets to charge it. 90% of my time using the internet it's from an actual computer.

[–] Ukuli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I do that for work, for instance when evaluating students and sharing my desktop, it is just more convenient and private to do it on a paper. Maybe also nostalgia plays a factor here, since even in uni not that long ago, I still used notebook and pen.

[–] AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

95% digital. Work journal is in Tiddlywiki and that's basically it. Todo lists I do tend to do with pen & paper.

I like pen and paper but searching is always such a fucking hassle and my hand writing is garbo. If I know I don't need to actually find anything later then it's great (doodling and thinking about something). I guess I could do pen and paper and layer save into digital but meh.

[–] ginerel@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you tried using different colors to highlight certain content? This way, you can somehow remember what is going on and where, and you remember to look for certain keywords. You can sometimes put certain words in a square, so you won't develop a habit and actually remember what you wrote.

[–] AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Not really. But it would be difficult because I have many things I need to keep track of. If I need to later figure out if I did X for Y then I need to be able to find it. Or if I quickly need to find every step I've done relating to Y it gets difficult. Only way would be to write everything basically twice, to a notepad (or page) about Y, and also to my journal where I quickly jot down what I have done today.

I've thought about digitizing notes and using something like hashtags which I could then search for but it was way too much of a hit and miss to covert handwriting to a searchable format.

Of course having a good index would make things easier but dunno. Maybe I'll take another shot at it at some point.

[–] Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

I kinda meet in the middle and just digitally scan my handwritten notes. It makes for easier backups and still have all the benefits of writing paper notes

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

If you have to write equations and drawings, pen and paper is still better for me. I'll scan it to onenote afterwards.

[–] TheyHaveNoName 1 points 1 year ago

When I need to learn something and think it over I use pen and paper. If it’s noting stuff down to read later or record somewhere, then it’s digital.

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t think I have touched a pen for much other than signing my name since Covid hit

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Haha no. I make all my notes in markdown, or if I have to write something Math fast like in university lectures, with xournal++.

If it has to be a proper document: LaTeX or real fancy Markdown.

I only sometimes do kanji writing practice (I'm learning japanese), and for that, I'm using paper. Xournal++ would work just as well through.

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