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[–] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 111 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

As an owner of children

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[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

TIL about the term "Parent".

OP, 2023.

Sidenote: if you're pretending shit for internet points, at least try for 10 seconds to put yourself in the shoes of the person you're pretending to be...

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I can't even begin to address how much is wrong with that.

[–] Mercival@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I know, right? Why would you willingly keep a child? Just put it away or put it down.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Carry ons should be put in the overhead bin or tuck under your seat.

If you carry your baby onto the plane, be kind to your fellow passengers and put it in the bin.

[–] prorester@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

and not on kbin

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Okay, I'm gonna bite the bullet and say it. This is disheartening. I'm not one to clutch pearls, but come on. Would you say this about anyone else? Dogs? Cats? Anything at all? Do you understand how fucked up it is? I just don't get it. It was the same in Reddit, and it's fucking same in here. Why do you hate children? You don't wanna have them, that's fine. Why would you say these things?

Maybe you're joking. Even after assuming that you are, this is in poor taste and a fucked up thing to say.

[–] SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Maybe you’re joking

Gee, you think?

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[–] Safeguard 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a parent of two boys, i feel that much of the annoyance of no-children-having people is due to parents not putting boundaries for children in place.

Children scream because of attention. It means they are not getting it.

Start walking around with the kid to calm it down. Its your job as a parent. You cannot stay seated and act like "what are you gonna do? They are children ! They scream!"

No. You are a bad parent for letting them just scream.

Having said that, babies sometimes just scream without reason. Perhaps, and I mean this, if you have a baby that is prone to doing this, do not travel in confined spaces, or dine at restaurants until that phase of screaming is over.

[–] Sephtis-6@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

U don't hate children but what i hate is that one child with shitty parents will ruin the entire flight for everyone else.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You can train dogs and cats to be quiet and sit still. Not all of them will be happy doing it for a long plane ride, but you can do it. Babies on the other hand? Babies don't give a fuck.

Hungry?

Scream.

Tired?

Scream.

Happy?

Scream.

Mad?

Scream

You can do everything right and the baby will still scream.

See, I have this speculation that early humans were fucking dumb, had no object permanence, couldn't keep track of their kids, and generally pretended they didn't exist unless they were being annoying. So their babies had to fucking scream as loud as a firetruck for their parents to not lose them.

That's the other thing too. The sound of a crying baby will drive anyone who doesn't have antisocial personality disorder or has been driven deaf by the wonders of childcare completely insane. Why? Because while the sheer volume of a baby's scream might not be as loud as a barking dog on an objective decibel scale, but when it comes to perceptual decibel levels, babies are loud. Our hearing sensitivity varies based on pitch. The higher the pitch, the more sensitive our ears are. On top of that, our brains are hardwired to have a reaction to a screaming baby, which can manifest itself as irritation, annoyance, frustration, and other negative emotions, because our primitive monkey brains are screeching, "WHY WON'T YOU TAKE CARE OF BABY!?" but we can't do anything because it's not our baby.

That's why people like to make jokes about dead babies, infant abuse, etc. Because babies are annoying as hell and literally everything they do is designed to make sure we know they're there at all times.

Edit: AND ONE MORE THING, have you ever wondered how a parent can love their baby when it's quiet but hate it when it's awake? Yeah, that's almost certainly a result of primitive humans trying to take advantage of the fact that the annoying poop demon was finally quiet and wasn't ear-fucking their monkey brain into guilt-tripping them anymore, so that they could ditch their babies when they were sleeping. So you can probably thank the negligent, sociopathic protohumans for babies being annoying as shit.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love this theory that early (and current) humans were so incompetently stupid that we evolved to fucking scream all the time just so they don't walk away and forget us.

Considering how many kids get left in locked cars in the summer, as well as no other species of animal has annoying ass babies I have to canonize this as the Truth.

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[–] mister_monster@monero.town 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm gonna be unapologetically that person one day. Get into a tube full of stinky humans and complain that babies exist in the world. People need to get over themselves.

[–] DrM@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Especially now that Noise Cancelling headphones are everywhere and work as good as they do. Since I've got my Sony headphones a crying infant becomes only a really minor inconvenience

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[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah ok I'll just fucking have my kids put down at the vet before I go on holiday! Get a fucking grip!

[–] Mercival@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

Honestly? You should.

[–] riceandbeans161@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

don’t go on holiday if you have cum pets. You chose that when you couldn’t keep it in your pants.

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think you're more deserving of a holiday just because you're shooting blanks?

[–] riceandbeans161@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i stay quiet and read my book and don’t annoy the entire plane/train/bus.

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[–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 year ago (13 children)

How anybody flies without noise-canceling headphones these days is beyond me.

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[–] nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Seems that everyone forgets they were kids once . I mean, we were not born adults and intolerant, right?...

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

One of the best things about moving here from the bad place was how their senseless, rabid hatred of young people didn't carry over. It's heartbreaking to see sentiments like this starting to spread.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Come on. It's not that bad. Plus "maybe don't take babies on plane trips" doesn't equal "kill all babies" or "fuck Dem kids". There are many subtle levels.

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[–] Anamana@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And you think you didn't annoy the fuck out of your own parents when you were one?

[–] 3TH4Li4@feddit.ch 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's irrelevant. Yes, we were all kids once. That doesn't make children any less annoying to travel with. Source: RealEarthHuman

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[–] Fjaeger@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tbh, I don't have a single memory from when I was an infant.

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[–] explodicle@local106.com 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think hours of noise canceling headphones are a realistic solution for everyone, like people with autism or sensitive ears.

What we should have is a "children's section" in the back of the plane. If your party only contains adults, then you can only book in the adult section until it's filled, and same with parties that have kids. Parents don't want to disrupt everyone, but imagine this on a longer bus or train ride!

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

I DROVE across Canada rather than dare take a plane with a possibility of screaming and kicking children. Sensory issues are a bitch.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 12 points 1 year ago (10 children)

When I bring my whole family somewhere I almost always book the farthest back on the plane I can. There doesn't have to be specific sections... just people with common courtesy.

but one thing I'm noticing as a common theme in these threads is that there's an innate blame on the children/parents. Kids oftentimes CANNOT pop their ears due to how narrow their Eustachian tubes are. https://kidshealth.org/en/parents/flying-ears.html There can be cases where the baby's ears actually tear if the Eustachian tubes are blocked due to a cold or something of that nature.

The better answer is to just educate them in a friendly manner. If you do it tactfully then maybe junior will simmer down and everyone can move on without this passive aggressiveness we see in the photo. Giving the kid a bottle (if they're that young) is often all that needs to happen to work the tubes open a little bit to relieve the pain.

Now... if you're a parent... and have a colicky little one... skip the plane if you can. You know your kid. If they're not going to take to the plane well, then you're just being a dick to everyone around you.

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[–] NewAgeOldPerson@reddthat.com 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is one of those things I see people complain about everyone complaining. Like vegans or CrossFit people. I've met far more people complaining about complaints than actual incidents.

Most of us get it. It's kids. I've seen obviously not emotional support animals brought in by asshats. Kids aren't my concern.

[–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Kids these days (Yes, I said that unironically) can't be assed to deal with any amount of discomfort. They've had a childhood of screens put in front of them so they don't have to deal with boredom and other shit that just ruins a person's ability to operate in society.

Grow the fuck up and deal with it.

EDIT: So apparently people are reading this like I'm talking about the crying babies. I'm talking about the ridiculous, pseudo-child-free adults who can't believe a baby might have trouble while flying and god forbid they should hear it cry.

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[–] MuffinHeeler@aussie.zone 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe it's different in the USA, but I've travelled a lot and don't think I ever remember a long haul flight without multiple babies and young children. It's just a fact of travelling.

I recently did a 16hr flight solo and the other 3 seats in my row of 4 were parents and a toddler.

That's just part of flying and you should plan for it (noise cancelling headphones, sleeping tablets, ear plugs).

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[–] Beeko@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

This ass taking weird selfies in his first class seat looks so entitled

[–] traveler@lemdro.id 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you're going to travel, use ANC headphones instead of complaining about people's children.

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[–] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Please don't fly with your kids, especially babies, and if you do, please for the love of all that might be holy, don't do it in business and first class!

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rich people deserve to suffer. Always fly first class with your kids and give them caffeine pills before the flight.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Based and energy pilled.

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[–] Firipu@startrek.website 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please don't leave your house, and if you do, please for the love that might be holy don't do it in areas actually inhabited by people.

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[–] ShrimpsIsBugs@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Lol. I'm also not the biggest fan of children, but what are the parents supposed to do? Not having vacation? Leave them home alone? Throw them out the window on the drive to the airport?

[–] riceandbeans161@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

get a sitter. If you can afford a holiday, budget for a sitter.

Or don’t have holidays until the snot factories are old enough to behave if you can’t afford a sitter. You chose to have children.

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[–] mister_monster@monero.town 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm going to do it and then laugh at your annoyance.

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spends hundreds of euros on a flight. Cant buy a noise cancelling heqdphone or earphone. I kinda assume a babys gonna cry when i fly because 200 people closed in an aluminium cylinder together isnt the most pleasant experience.

[–] Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Noise cancelling headphones don't work against babies. They are designed for cancelling ambient sound by playing frequencies to cancel out the noise, but can't predict sudden noises like children crying very well. Earplugs or earbuds do a better job at drowning those out by plugging your ears from outside noises

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[–] jeanma@lemmy.ninja 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don't want to be pedantic but you don't "own" children, you are parent.

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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Damn I feel bad for the parents

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[–] xilliah 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe private airplanes aren't such a bad idea after all.

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[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Dang that’s a big plane! 4x4??

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