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[–] DrQuint@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would assume the top answer would be "fuck capitalism" with a sprinkle of "lmao"

[–] Frub@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds like strong left slightly lib

[–] Conyak@lemmy.tf 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Capitalism is fucking us all equally so it shouldn’t be a lib idea only but you are probably right.

[–] Frub@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Nah the lib comes from the sprinkle of lmao

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

I think majority here is left-sided. I personally am right/ conservative (European wise).

However unfortunately, most of the right-side communities are filled with hate and thus, I avoid it.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Any compas with only two axes is so flawed as to be actively harmful to discourse.

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

Except an actual compas, of course. They really don't need a third axis in most cases.

[–] goddamnpipes@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm afraid I'm only familiar with the 2-axis political compass: Left/Right and Auth/Lib.

How many axes do you think there should be in an effective political chart, and what aspects of a political position should each one represent?

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

To be robust, it needs a social axis distinct from the heirarcy / authority axis, a political status-quo-vs-reform axis, and a dedicated economic policy axis. So, at least four.

[–] Frub@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But I'm not commenting on the validity of it

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

But I am, and I'm saying that thinking in these terms is actively harmful.

[–] Vitaly@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

Probably a lot of stupid communists

[–] mim@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

First world tankie LARPer.

Overall it'd probably lean toward the middle of the left side, with no strong leaning on the Authoritarian/Libertarian axis.

Very few people on here that aren't to the left of Blairites or Establishment Democrats. Quite a few Marxist-Leninists, but not a majority. The few right-of-center people here seem to be either Euroskeptics or ancaps who somehow still believe any alternative from the corporate mainstream will be mostly used by ancaps.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd prefer if Lemmy was a safe haven from politics and ideologies but people just can't help themselves...

[–] Frub@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's essentially impossible

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not with such posts and attitude!

The sad fact is you can't really escape politics and ideology since they literally permeate everything. The closest thing you can do is make something as appealing to mainstream audiences and thus as close to the stuff most people agree with, but... Liking the status quo is still a political statement at the end of the day.

Let's say you're talking about a character in a movie who always goes out of their way to help people. That would be palatable to most, it's a very widespread worldview and value. But even then, a segment of people believe that you shouldn't help people if it doesn't get you anything (What's in it for me? Sort of mentality).

In that situation, the person claiming you shouldn't help people for free would rightfully be labeled an asshole, but the point still is that even something as benign as that makes a statement in a conflict between an altruistic ideology (It's good to help people!) Vs an egoistic ideology (I need to get something for my effort)

This is obviously a very simplified version of how deep politics and philosophy affect all interactions, but I hope I managed to get my point across!

Have a nice day, stranger!

Leftish, but not left enough.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If this comment chain and all the others on that thread are anything to go by, Lemmy’s choice of reverse-appeal-based marketing summoned a very specific (and arguably overwhelming, even when off-topic as its assault-related parent comment suggests) college-lifestyle-inspired demographic that makes me surprised at the outcomes in some places.

[–] WhatASave@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not very smart to begin with but this whole comment hurt my brain to read.

A part of it I was trying to say euphemistically because the whole thing is tense, I even had links. I just can't win sometimes it seems.

[–] trimmerfrost@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Leftist fascist

[–] BellaDonna@mujico.org 2 points 1 year ago

I think it's not as left leaning as Reddit. I see a lot of disagreement with leftist ideas, more liberal or libertarian ideals are what I see the most. It's been refreshing to see the diversity, Reddit was an echo chamber of pure leftist values and that's not an accurate cross section of discourse and range of ideas.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Vastly different overall, in any case