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[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 106 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Let me copy pasta myself here to save time and just say - they are already murdering us in the millions, any harm that might come to them is an act of self defence.

Look around - the violence is already here, it has been inflicted on to the working class for centuries, killing hundreds of millions (at least, in all that time) for profit in war, with hunger and restricted access to water, with homelessness and poverty, with preventable disease, with climate change, with immoral laws and entire systems designed to keep large segments of the population as slave labour, which is what they used to gain their power and wealth to be in the position to impose all of this in the first place. And all that just off the top of my head, there is so much more violence that is inflicted on us daily, they've just got most people convinced that's just life, when it really really isn't. And those who actually benefit are never just going to give all of that up.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 77 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They can live, but it has to be on 60k a year, with all of their initial assets liquidated and used to support people in need.

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.fmhy.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

yeah i'm fine with that but not murder like a lot of people here say they want

[–] Narrrz@kbin.social 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think most of us start with the assumption that they'll never give up their stranglehold willingly, and move on to more practical solutions.

[–] Seraph@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They need to make the choice: pay a lot more taxes, or take the second option. I'm not threatening violence, but as our society gets more desperate the targets on their backs get larger.

There are 756 billionaires in the US and 330 million of us. Once that becomes clear to people things might change, one way or the other. All other "culture wars" are noise generated to distract from this one.

[–] gabe@literature.cafe 8 points 1 year ago

Shameless displays of excess wealth is increasingly being met with more and more cultural hostility, especially amongst younger people. Gen Zers are highly likely to view people who flaunt their wealth or indulge heavily in luxury goods as being tacky or just generally negatively. The hostility as the climate crisis increases will only increase as well.

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[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Narrrz@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

what other pressure do you have the ability to put on a billionaire that they wouldn't find utterly laughable, if they even noticed it? but you can't buy your way out of death. sure, if the threat to their lives were to become credible, they could leverage their wealth to protect against it, but being surrounded by bodyguards at all times, having every rooftop surveyed for snipers before you go out to get coffee - these are things that disrupt their overly-cruisy existences. and the more people there are gunning for them, figuratively or literally, the worse their lives get.

and sure, if you off them, their wealth will just default to someone else. but if billionaires start dying left and right, their inheritants might just start to find ways to make sure their fortune stays a little shy of that magical 9-digit mark.

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[–] Poob@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I want them to give up their wealth and power for the benefit of society. But they aren't going to do that, are they?

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[–] StarlightRose@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I personally am a pacifist, but the billionaires will not be missed if the general public decides to

I don't advocate for it, I just won't miss them

Keanu can stay though

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 year ago

Billionaires is a weird group of people to choose to speak up for.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago

...And?

Murder can be just without being legal.

The murder of billionaires, and CEOs of oil companies (along with all other oil executives) is morally justified, even if it's not legal.

[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. Your a naive fool.

Unironically choosing the lives of some of the most vile despicable people to have ever lived over the lives of 50,000x as many completely normal people.

I want to eradicate their genomes.

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[–] Harrison@ttrpg.network 28 points 1 year ago

It's them or us

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So OP, I'm unsure how to ask this, but you wouldn't happen to be... Say... A billionaire would you?

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[–] Narrrz@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

murder is murder... but some murders are definitely less... crime-y than others

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're coming for you, whether you fight back or not.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly, we're already just cogs in their money making system at best - some of us may die but it is a sacrifice they are willing to make...

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

coming for you? they're eating you right now..

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago

Yes.

In Minecraft, of course.

[–] Sanctus@crystals.rest 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let the free market decide.

[–] superpants@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the free market is rigged by the billionaires

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[–] unfnknblvbl@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's only murder if you subscribe to the "meat is murder" mantra...

[–] KaleDaddy@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

I think meat is murder, but i still think we should kill billionaires.

The same way I wouldn't kill a cow for a burger, but Id defend myself if some wild animal was trying to kill me.

[–] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago

Proof that people from off of Blahaj zone are weak

[–] alycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me it's a case of where the end justifies the means. While murder is terrible and I'd personally feel bad if I had to take another life, it'd be for the greater good of our species (as well as every other lifeform on this planet) if the world was suddenly ridded of a billionaire or two... or more...

I do recognise that this is a slippery slope in justifying homicide, but what is the alternative?

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[–] RagTheMan 18 points 1 year ago

I am a starving child and this is the last post I will see before I die. Goodbye

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 18 points 1 year ago

..do you not?

[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Killing insects isn't murder. It's pest control.

[–] MinusPi@pawb.social 17 points 1 year ago

Shamelessly, yes.

[–] Juice@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago

Sorry, I'm just hangry. Lab grown billionare meat just doesn't have the same kick.

[–] xedrak@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m sorry, but this point of view is so brain-dead to me. What do you think happens when a billionaire dies? The money magically disappears? It’s redistributed to the masses? No, it’s inherited by relatives. Killing billionaires only creates different billionaires. How about we use our brains and come up with actual solutions rather than parroting brain-dead bullshit?

[–] R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 year ago (9 children)

You're taking the argument at it's most basic level, assuming that we would kill the billionaires and then sit around twiddling out thumbs. I don't think it's much of a leap to assume we'd change how the system works as well lol.

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[–] Cedarwood@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want to eat them. Murder is merely a stepping stone

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[–] Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Haha jk.... unless

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