Reddit Migration

oh man I wonder how often I can use this today https://xkcd.com/927/

If we're taking a vote, I think "Magazine" is a dumb name. I saw that and had no idea what it was supposed to be.

Honestly, this specific post is the first I am realizing that "Magazine" is the equivalent of a subreddit.

Edit: if I'm being honest, I thought Community was a dumb name too.

Not really. A magazine is a collection of articles that all are about a certain topic. It is not that hard of a concept to grasp

Plus: The polish dev called his platform kbin = karabin = rifle, the contents of a rifle are stored in a magazyn = magazine. I actually would have loved if the dev had called threads "bullets" / pocisk to keep going with the theme.

EDIT: this info might be wrong, as @minnieo pointed out. kbin is just a reference to the linux sbin folder.

I am more confused with the upvote and down vote buttons on kbin: the upvote is actually favorite, the equivalent to reddits upvote is boost, the downvote seems not to have a real function besides counting the number.

When I first arrived here, I assumed magazines = communities and made some flippant comment to that effect, only to be set straight by someone more knowledgeable. They essentially argued that magazines > communities on account of the fact that a hashtag within a magazine post is meaningful to kbin but not lemmy. So the different naming underscores that they are not, in fact, identical. Though to be fair, I haven’t seen a lot of posts with hashtags to date.

While I see what you mean about the names causing confusion, as I was confused myself at first, it took me very little time to adapt. Don't underestimate the users, most won't care too much about what 'subreddits' are called on each platform.

That's like saying Facebook and Twitter should come to a concensus on how to name stuff

Lemmy and Kbin are different platforms that are compatible with activitypub (just like other platforms in the fediverse, like peertube, friendica, pleroma or mastodon, among others)

What you're proposing is pretty antithetical to the way the fediverse works. Kbin and Lemmy are two completely different pieces of software that just happen to communicate with each other. There can easily be more (and probably will be in the future) that name their version of a subreddit something else entirely. Heck, Reddit could conceivably add activitypub federation and then you'd literally have subreddits as part of the fediverse.

The entire point is that things are decentralized so the users and developers that make use of the fediverse can do whatever they want with it and so that no single person, organization, or community can enforce their decisions on everyone else.

That's like saying Microsoft and Sony need to settle on either "Gamertag" or "PSNID", because otherwise Call of Duty players trying to find their friends online will be confused.

I think users can figure things out.

So the problem with this idea is we're gonna get into a big argument about whether to keep magazines or communities and honestly just screw that. A magazine is a community, a cat is a kitty. We can have two words for things.

Edit: If we do get into it I vote for "magazine" because I went there for the topic primarily.

Yeah no. Both are different softwares and can perfectly coexist with their own naming conventions. There is no need to make them both exact clones of each other.

Would also alleviate confusion for any new adopters.

there's no need really, for new adopters or if you're planning to bring someone to the fediverse, simply do not mention anything about it being federated and just direct them to your preferred instances (in this case, kbin). Let them just learn kbin for a while before introducing the interconnected instances.

/kbin magazines, Lemmy communities and Friendica forums are (according to ActivityStreams vocabulary) groups. However, the same applies to Mobilizon groups, which work slightly differently, allow private discussions, having common file resources, and most important of all - organising events.
We could also call these three subfeddits, which is another word to learn ;)
or simply to go ahead. All communities and forums already will be seen by /kbin as magazines, and the same is accordingly true to other software.

Also, not all vocabulary aligning is actually desired - /kbin explicitly uses name boost to align with Mastodon feature. However, both "boost" and upvote have a "boosting" effect - the meaning of the feature (being simply reblog or re-tweet) is obscured right now.

Another confusing Mastodon nomenclature alignement is calling only microblog posts posts. Majority of /kbin users are Reddit emigrants right now, and Reddit used name post for /kbin article. In reality, everything, from articles and "tweets", through audio and video, to places, events and relationships (!), can in ActivityPub be called posts. ActivityStreams vocabulary differentiates between an article (long form, formatted), and note (short, equivalent of tweet and toot), and IMO /kbin should adopt the name note for microblog posts - to reduce confusion (Calc- and Misskey already use that name).

"Community magazines" there perfect alternative

Agree and disagree.
Agree, because it would make things easier.

Disagree, because one of the value propositions of the fediverse is that every platform can be managed independently, while still interacting with the same content. Heck if they call it peanuts in one platform, and oranges in the other, all fine with me

Honestly, while I like Kbin and understand what "Magazine" means, it would make a lot more sense and would've been easier to onboard if they'd also gone with "Community" it's more intuitive.

I've found myself saying magazine/group/community to cover my bases, so having a common name might be nice.

Create your own instance and name them whatever you want.

FR tho, think about what you're suggesting. Take all this decentralized content and homogenize it? Hard pass. BTDT.

Why? They are different platforms.

Mastodon, Misskey, GoToSocial and Pleroma don't use the same terminology either.

@Azzu I was so confused about kbin using "magazines"...