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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This bullshit comes up every five years or so and has done since the naughties. It goes like this.

  1. Government states they need a backdoor to encryption to stop terrorism/pedophilia.
  2. Privacy and tech groups say it's a bad idea, children's charities and anti-terrorist groups say it's a good idea.
  3. Someone in the Civil Service informs a top politician that if there is a backdoor, hackers will find a way in and that could mean leaks of things the government doesn't want the public to see like their affair with their intern or how they are doing to abolish devolution.
  4. They use an event to cover it up again.
  5. Next government, return to step one.

This has happened under Blair, Brown, Cameron, May, Boris, Truss wasn't around long enough (lol), and now Sunak.

It's funny because Boris Johnson is currently using an encrypted phone to stop giving evidence to the Covid Enquiry (namely his WhatsApp messages, yes, the UK government uses fuckin' WhatsApp.

We keep telling them it won't work, that it will only put the data of law abiding citizens at risk, but they don't listen and they keep playing the same game over and over.

[–] orelow@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Even child charities say it's a bad idea

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/about-us/news-opinion/2021/adults-support-encryption-if-children-safety-protected/

The NSPCC is running articles saying that we should only have End to End encryption if we can somehow guarentee children's safety, which sounds like they're advocating for backdoors.

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's one nice home screen. Shame we still have Discord tho

[–] samsy@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes, and I only use it for some Linux support groups, don't know why they are not on matrix.

[–] exu@feditown.com 6 points 2 years ago

So many open source projects on discord unfortunately

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because matrix is absolutely not there yet like lemmy and mastodon are.

I‘m an admin and a coder for roughly 20 yrs, yet it took me hours to understand matrix and elements. There is just not enough knowledge out there atm and the apps dont do a well enough job themselves imho.

[–] samsy@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Used matrix too. But for the next try I wait for dendrite is out of beta state. The bridges fucked me up. One reason I use beeper, lets doing the pros the fucked up bridges.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Makes sense. We‘ll see if matrix clients can catch up to the other two. Usability is what we need. Matrix has been around for a long time but so far I only see enthusiasts and privacy obsessed peeps talk about it. That needs to change.

[–] samsy@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If EU and others starts their hunt for breaking decryption, matrix could get more interesting. They wrote a blog article about being unable to break decryption of selfhosted instances.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, I agree. I recently read an article somewhere here about the web 2.0 being on the way out and the need of taking it back from the megacorps through decentralization. If you search for it I recon you‘ll find it.

[–] dauerstaender@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago

Do not be afraid! You have nothing to fear, for you have nothing to hide, do you? /s

[–] allforthebest@infosec.pub 11 points 2 years ago

You don't need to decrypt if it hasn't encrypted. (Discord)

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What are you, some kind of terrorist?

[–] samsy@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lol no. Just a privacy hardener. Idk it started with replacing all google stuff with nextcloud. And more and more I became free.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I might bite the bullet, and buy a Pixel tablet, to flash it with GrapheneOS. Lineage OS tablet support is pretty spotty lately. I use a Samsung SM-T720 that is doing well, but will die eventually.

[–] samsy@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes it's kind of annoying to buy a google phone to replace google. Lineage is good but they use some google stuff.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS are sticking to Google hardware for security features and upstream support. I'd rather wish for a maximum privacy platform that doesn't leak anything to Google. I'm currently not aware of anything like that.

[–] samsy@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Linux phone. Okay they are years behind. But it gets better.

[–] awesome_person@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

cmon you're almost there, you can self host everything!

(for the curious the icon pack is arcticons (f-droid))

[–] original_ish_name@latte.isnot.coffee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What launcher?

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[–] Zyansheep@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] zShxck@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Please tell me this is not implemented

[–] goddard_guryon@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You got access to Beeper? Lucky bastard

[–] samsy@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] goddard_guryon@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sheesh! I mean, I did get a token around 100k when I signed up, but they definitely need a better way of screening if it takes an average user more than a year to get through the screening :/

[–] samsy@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

For real, I fully forgot my subscription. And I know someone who subscribed some days ago and he is on waiting place >100.000. It's suspicious exactly after 500 days.

[–] caboose20@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How long is the wait now? I've had it for a bit and I know they've been ramping up their onboarding.

[–] butmingus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I signed up 6 weeks ago, still nothing

[–] samsy@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

I wrote on another comment, got my invite after 500 days.

[–] goddard_guryon@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I've been waiting for almost a month now, and I've seen a few people complaining how they're in waiting list since multiple months (recent ones, i.e. after they announced lesser waiting time)

[–] ryonia 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm not sure I really get the pull. It seems to just be a matrix server with bridges and custom clients

They do have their work open sorced which is nice, but this all kinda just looks like what matrix is on its own. I guess the only advantage I see is maybe making things a little easier for more casual folks, but it does cost to...

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks for explaining what it is.

[–] goddard_guryon@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah if they had a way of trivially adding the bridges to any other matrix client (on android, that is), that'd make things super convenient.

Making the work easier for casual folks is all I'm in for in the case of Beeper. I mean, I could manually set everything up, but I'd rather support methods that make it easier for everyone else to access the fediverse more easily.

[–] caboose20@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

It used to cost. It is now free so that helps the value proposition. There will be a Beeper Pro/Plus or some subsctiption service that will allow you to have multiple accounts/bridges on the same network, but that's not actually released yet.

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

what icon pacj is being used